# Trump claims Canadians want to be the 51 US state. Canadian dopers any thoughts? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 8, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730 "2025-01-08T17:47:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![StringsandHammers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stringsandhammers/32/17933_2.png) [@StringsandHammers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StringsandHammers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/161 "2025-01-12T19:47:55Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > [@StringsandHammers](#): > > > > This is not a real thing, I refuse to believe it, and I hate that we’re even discussing it because of asshat Trump. > > From north of the 49th, the US is starting to look like an existentialist threat to Canada. I know and I hate it. I hate that we have an incoming president that talks like this. That seeps hateful bile out of his mouth at one of our closest allies. Canada has never really done us any harm. Meanwhile when Trump’s draft number was called he ran away and hid like a coward. As veteran of this country’s armed services I want to take a sh1t in his mouth. If I were still in the military I wouldn’t follow any order intended to harm Canada in any way and I would tell the men under my command to ignore those orders too. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/162 "2025-01-12T19:55:50Z")
> [@BayLeaves](#): > > There is nothing in the United States but a sky high crime rate and a crummy health system that is hideously expensive and gets crummy results. Crummy. Now there’s a word I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/163 "2025-01-12T19:56:05Z")
> [@StringsandHammers](#): > > > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > > From north of the 49th, the US is starting to look like an existentialist threat to Canada. > > I know and I hate it. I hate that we have an incoming president that talks like this. That seeps hateful bile out of his mouth at one of our closest allies. Canada has never really done us any harm. > > Meanwhile when Trump’s draft number was called he ran away and hid like a coward. I stole the cartoon below from a posting in the Canadoper Cafe, but it seems appropriate here. The bottom panel is a reference to Canada sending volunteers and equipment, including water bombers, to help with the California wildfires, as any good national neighbour would do, while the Orange Fuck threatens Canada’s economy and even its very sovereignty and the Canadian way of life. [![](https://i.imgur.com/kMgnWxW.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/kMgnWxW.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/164 "2025-01-12T19:59:01Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The most infuriating thing is that he isn’t asked where he heard that, or who told him that. This is true for all his bullshit proclamations. If he comes close to being asked for a cite, he gets hostile, and he’s never asked again. Never any pushback. Hey, how are those Haitians making out in Ohio? Are the dogs and cats safe yet? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/165 "2025-01-12T20:35:18Z")
Since there is so much fear, hate and doubt, as well as a bit too much of the _USAians_ predicting doom or naysaying, I’ll just repeat myself from upthread: > [@ParallelLines](#): > > As an American, I don’t get the right to decide what Canada should or should not feel about Trump’s blather. > > All I can do, and not that it does much good, is formally apologize to our northern neighbor for what an absolute @#$%^&\*( he is, and assure you, that at least I personally did not vote for him. > > And hope one day I’m forgiven. ---
**Author:** ![StringsandHammers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stringsandhammers/32/17933_2.png) [@StringsandHammers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StringsandHammers)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/166 "2025-01-12T20:39:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@StringsandHammers](#): > > > > > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > > > > From north of the 49th, the US is starting to look like an existentialist threat to Canada. > > > > I know and I hate it. I hate that we have an incoming president that talks like this. That seeps hateful bile out of his mouth at one of our closest allies. Canada has never really done us any harm. > > > > Meanwhile when Trump’s draft number was called he ran away and hid like a coward. > > I stole the cartoon below from a posting in the Canadoper Cafe, but it seems appropriate here. The bottom panel is a reference to Canada sending volunteers and equipment, including water bombers, to help with the California wildfires, as any good national neighbour would do, while the Orange Fuck threatens Canada’s economy and even its very sovereignty and the Canadian way of life. > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](https://i.imgur.com/kMgnWxW.jpeg) I’m so embarrassed and ashamed of who our country elected then re-elected. I also happen to be hispanic. When I travel out of the country and people ask where I’m from I just tell them I’m Mexican ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/167 "2025-01-12T20:54:27Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > My prediction for the next 4 years: > > 1. The US & Canada re-work some sort of trade deal, and the Canadians probably take us to the cleaners, because Trump’s “trade representatives” will by definition be idiots. > 2. The US & Denmark re-work our relationship with Greenland that involves more exploration of their minerals. > 3. The US leaves NATO. > 4. The US removes support of Ukraine completely. > 5. Russia annexes the parts of Ukraine that it has conquered, and starts to re-tool to eventually take the rest of Ukraine in the future. or…once the US leaves NATO and removes support of Ukraine (I have no problem anticipating those two points btw), then then non-Ukrainian Europe decides that they must take care of the Russia/Ukraine problem, without restrictions. This could include actually deciding, as remaining NATO, or some sort of EU body, actually saying “screw it, we’re going in ourselves to help Ukraine get this done once and for all.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/168 "2025-01-12T21:02:03Z")
> [@BayLeaves](#): > > I think quite a few enlightened people living in blue states would like for their states to join Canada. No thanks. That would effectively be Canada be absorbed into a rump USA, given the populations. Solve your own damned problems, we have our own to solve. Canada’s territorially fine the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/169 "2025-01-12T21:33:28Z")
Agreed. Americans are welcome in Canada as guests, not as invaders. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/170 "2025-01-12T22:02:37Z")
In response to the OP: the Canadian government is preparing for a trade war, with retaliatory tariffs on targetted US products. > **[Canada is preparing to strike back hard with retaliatory tariffs if Trump...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/economy/canada-tarrifs-trade-war/index.html)** > > Canada is preparing to retaliate with an exhaustive list of tariffs on American goods if President-elect Trump follows through with his plans to add a steep 25% import tax on Canadian exports, people familiar with the matter told CNN. The... ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/171 "2025-01-12T22:13:20Z")
Just what the world needs … bootlegging across a 5,000 mile unpatrolled border. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/172 "2025-01-12T22:35:51Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > In response to the OP: the Canadian government is preparing for a trade war, with retaliatory tariffs on targetted US products. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has suggested going further, and cutting off electricity supplies to northern US states. Thus creating a shining example of Making America Great Again, where “shining” here has to be taken both ironically and metaphorically, since they would be both cold and dark in mid-winter. ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/173 "2025-01-12T23:11:44Z")
> [@StringsandHammers](#): > > I’m so embarrassed and ashamed of who our country elected then re-elected. I also happen to be hispanic. When I travel out of the country and people ask where I’m from I just tell them I’m Mexican When I talk to co-workers from other countries, they can’t believe what has happened to the US with MAGA and all the issues we’ve had since 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/174 "2025-01-12T23:24:50Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The most infuriating thing is that he isn’t asked where he heard that, or who told him that. This is true for all his bullshit proclamations. If he comes close to being asked for a cite, he gets hostile, and he’s never asked again. Never any pushback. In other words, Trump would last about 15 minutes on the SDMB. “My post is my cite” has never worked here. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/175 "2025-01-13T01:50:13Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The most infuriating thing is that he isn’t asked where he heard that, or who told him that. He just lies. That’s what he always does. And a large number of US voters are okay with that. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/176 "2025-01-13T02:04:38Z")
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has taken time out of her vacation to go to Trump’s place to be photographed with him and other lunkheads. After he said Canada should not be a sovereign state. The woman is a disgrace. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/177 "2025-01-13T02:13:17Z")
Let the Quislings mark themselves. It’ll be so much easier later to round them up. ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/178 "2025-01-13T02:16:26Z")
> [@TheTooth](#): > > Alberta Premier Danielle Smith has taken time out of her vacation to go to Trump’s place to be photographed with him and other lunkheads. After he said Canada should not be a sovereign state. The woman is a disgrace. Is there a chance within the next 5-10 years that a Trump-like figure could emerge out of Canada? Every country has extremists. I would have to think that they watch people like Trump, and would want to emulate his successes. While Canada is much more to the left than the US, I do worry that eventually, they’ll be under threat from an internal Trump-like figure. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/179 "2025-01-13T02:21:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Let the Quislings mark themselves. It’ll be so much easier later to round them up. A man can dream, can’t he? Stranger ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730/180 "2025-01-13T02:24:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > No thanks. That would effectively be Canada be absorbed into a rump USA, given the populations. > > Solve your own damned problems, we have our own to solve. Canada’s territorially fine the way it is. Not even New England? We wouldn’t take up that much room, honest! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-canadians-want-to-be-the-51-us-state-canadian-dopers-any-thoughts/1012730.md?page=10)