# Trump claims people in California are rioting to get out of sancuary cities. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 21, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292 "2018-10-21T16:58:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/21 "2018-10-21T20:34:02Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Well, I’m a little surprised that youtube is running ads that say the Democrats are pro-infanticide and pro-geronticide, but if you say so. I think he is exaggerating that one. But yeah, I have seen ads much like the others he describes. "I’ve seen ads that say that Democrats want immigrants to come here and murder your family so that they can vote in our elections (for Democrats, of course). " = Ads which say Gov Brown is wasting taxpayer money or “the gas tax” on aid programs for “illegals”. So, maybe a little exaggeration to make his point, but yeah, they are bad. One I laugh at is for a local Congresscritter. The GOP has tapped into some hatred here in CA for the recent boost on gas taxes. Sure, who likes higher taxes? So, they say "Person running for Congress vs old white guy republican is in favor of raising CA gas taxes! Of course a Congresscritter has nothing whatsoever to do with State gas taxes. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/22 "2018-10-21T21:04:52Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Wasn’t that a Neko Case song? > > Stranger How about Buffalo Springfield - “Stop Children What’s That Sound…” Neko Case? Just wikied her. I’ll look it up. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/23 "2018-10-21T21:08:14Z")
So called ‘Open Borders’ are the very least of our problems. There is a moronic criminal in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/24 "2018-10-21T22:22:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Just watch YouTube. I see a gazillion of these things every day when I watch music videos; there’s one before nearly every video. Google is making a fortune off these ads; there’s no way they’ll shut down that money spigot. No matter who gets elected or what happens to the country _later_, they’re gonna take the money _now_. Oh. come on; you know better than that. I spend a considerable amount of time daily watching Youtube videos and I haven’t seen seen anything close to what you are claiming. Please back up your claim or retract it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/25 "2018-10-21T22:24:37Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Oh. come on; you know better than that. I spend a considerable amount of time daily watching Youtube videos and I haven’t seen seen anything close to what you are claiming. Please back up your claim or retract it. I said I saw several very similar to most of his claims. In areas where there is a close race for congress, you will get different ads. I get a bunch of them. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/26 "2018-10-21T22:34:52Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > NO. Most of them are from the GOP. Don’t try and mitigate these ads by claiming they aren’t funded by, wanted by or appreciated by the GOP: they are. The GOP wanted Citizens United so they could influence politics without anyone knowing they did so or how much they did so, and now they’re using the situation they created to their advantage. > > IMO, trying to deflect blame away from those who instigated, use and benefit from the current perverse laws regarding campaign finance isn’t going to help end this situation; pointing it out will. > > And pointing out that what the GOP says about their opponents and about our country is an ever-increasingly ridiculous set of lies is central to that effort. And how do you know they’re from the GOP? Do they have statements at the bottom saying something like “This ad approved by \_\_\_\_\_”? I have no love for the smarmy side of politics, nor for the GOP, but attributing these sorts of things to them without some sort of proof just doesn’t fly. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/27 "2018-10-21T22:50:10Z")
YouTube. Well fine. Don’t need YouTube to understand Trump and his administrations goals. It’s seen in every broadcast of him, every word he blasts out on Twitter. The petulant child that he is should not be put in charge of a playground A child like Trump in my house would be reprimanded and counseled. And I would have a talk with the parents. I would feel sorry for the parents of such an out of control child. Now, I feel sorry for the US and the world. This is bullshit. He’s a moron. This is clear. Yet there are people here, in this country and on this site that seem to think he’s doing a good job. I would pity these people, but can’t anymore. They have been shown fact after fact but still believe. They may as well be flat earthers for the ‘logic’ they present. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/28 "2018-10-21T23:07:38Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And how do you know they’re from the GOP? Do they have statements at the bottom saying something like “This ad approved by \_\_\_\_\_”? I have no love for the smarmy side of politics, nor for the GOP, but attributing these sorts of things to them without some sort of proof just doesn’t fly. Well, a attack ad on the local Dem Congress candidate did show it was paid for and approved by the GOp incumbent. Of course they could be from the kremlin, but since their purpose is to support GOp candidates, the end result is the same. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/29 "2018-10-21T23:18:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/30 "2018-10-21T23:23:44Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > And how do you know they’re from the GOP? Do they have statements at the bottom saying something like “This ad approved by \_\_\_\_\_”? I have no love for the smarmy side of politics, nor for the GOP, but attributing these sorts of things to them without some sort of proof just doesn’t fly. I’m sorry but you made the initial claim that “Most of them are likely planted videos by foreign entities, and not from the GOP.” and so you’ll have to cite that or withdraw your claim; thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/31 "2018-10-21T23:38:59Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Most of them are likely planted videos by foreign entities, and not from the GOP. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The thing is, Trump’s lies (and all the other lies told by Republicans) work. You can see people on this board posting these things as if they were actual facts. I suspect that some of _these_ are foreign entities, which explains why they purport to buy the extremist “party” line. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/32 "2018-10-21T23:48:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m sorry but you made the initial claim that “Most of them are likely planted videos by foreign entities, and not from the GOP.” and so you’ll have to cite that or withdraw your claim; thanks. You mean the ads you’ve vaguely described in obviously hyperbolic terms? You want him to find your imaginary ads and refute they’re GOP ads? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/33 "2018-10-22T00:05:45Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > You mean the ads you’ve vaguely described in obviously hyperbolic terms? You want him to find your imaginary ads and refute they’re GOP ads? Not imaginary, like I have said now for the 3rd time, I have seen ads very similar to the majority of his claims. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/34 "2018-10-22T00:12:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Not imaginary, like I have said now for the 3rd time, I have seen ads very similar to the majority of his claims. Not imaginary, like I have said now for the 3rd time, I have seen ads very similar to the majority of his claims. And, you won’t see the same ads as we do, as you are not in the same congressional district. My district is hotly contended, the Dems have a 50-50 shot of outing a long term GOP congresscritter, so yes, there are plenty of GOP attack ads. [http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-dccc-hits-rep-steve-knight-with-new-tv-1475866573-htmlstory.html](http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-dccc-hits-rep-steve-knight-with-new-tv-1475866573-htmlstory.html) > **[GOP priming the pump in California with anti-gas tax ads](https://www.nbcnews.com/card/gop-priming-pump-california-anti-gas-tax-ads-n902591)** > > Republicans hope they can bank on gas tax opposition to turn out voters in the fall [https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/house-gop-super-pac-attack-ads-democrats-flip-majority/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/house-gop-super-pac-attack-ads-democrats-flip-majority/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/35 "2018-10-22T00:19:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Not imaginary, like I have said now for the 3rd time, I have seen ads very similar to the majority of his claims. > > And, you won’t see the same ads as we do, as you are not in the same congressional district. > > My district is hotly contended, the Dems have a 50-50 shot of outing a long term GOP congresscritter, so yes, there are plenty of GOP attack ads. > > [Essential Politics October archive](http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-sac-essential-politics-updates-dccc-hits-rep-steve-knight-with-new-tv-1475866573-htmlstory.html) > > [GOP priming the pump in California with anti-gas tax ads](https://www.nbcnews.com/card/gop-priming-pump-california-anti-gas-tax-ads-n902591) > > [https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/house-gop-super-pac-attack-ads-democrats-flip-majority/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/house-gop-super-pac-attack-ads-democrats-flip-majority/index.html) Can you quote the parts of those cites that back up the claims made in post #3? ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/36 "2018-10-22T00:27:45Z")
So I guess Trump may not realize that border crossing arrests in 2017 were at a 46-year low, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/37 "2018-10-22T01:16:38Z")
I catalog youtube videos all week long. I have to keep the ads on for my scripts to run on Mturk so I have seen ads over and over and over. They are NUTTY. I saw that one where the guy said he’d stomp another politician in to the ground before it got pulled and he had to half-ass apologize over it. I’ve seen plenty about how Democrats advocate for open borders. I haven’t seen any “death panel” type ads lately but I’ve sure seen the gun grabber lies and of course the baby killer ads. I’ll keep an eye out tomorrow and see who is paying for them but usually I have the chance to click out after a few seconds so I don’t usually make it through to the end. ---
**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/38 "2018-10-22T01:17:00Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > So called ‘Open Borders’ are the very least of our problems. There is a moronic criminal in the White House. You realize one of the reasons for the “moronic criminal in the White House” was his opponent’s alliance with people advocating for open borders. His opposition to that with his unbuilt wall earned him a few swing votes. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/39 "2018-10-22T02:13:27Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > You realize one of the reasons for the “moronic criminal in the White House” was his opponent’s alliance with people advocating for open borders. His opposition to that with his unbuilt wall earned him a few swing votes. Nobody advocates for open borders, with the possible exception of a very fringe group or two. This is the case no matter how often Trump and the Republicans say otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292/40 "2018-10-22T02:17:21Z")
\*\*Trump claims people in California are rioting to get out of sancuary cities. \*\*Trump is full of shit. Just like always. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-people-in-california-are-rioting-to-get-out-of-sancuary-cities/823292.md?page=3)