# Trump Claims to be Taking Hydroxychloroquine **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 18, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069 "2020-05-18T22:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/41 "2020-05-19T05:09:34Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > No, he is a great bullshitter. It’s the one thing he’s undeniably good at. If he _weren’t_ one, he would have faced _consequences_ for all his failures. He hasn’t. He’d deserve the credit if he had been responsible for avoiding the consequences. But his usual pattern is to wander into the middle of a disaster created by his own incompetence and then sit there until somebody else rescues him. His rescuers have run from Fred Trump who kept giving Donald money every time he blew a fortune to Mitch McConnell who kept Trump in office when he was impeached. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/42 "2020-05-19T05:33:54Z")
After he said this, the White House doctor scrambled to put out [a letter](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/trump-physician-on-hydroxychloroquine/index.html) that IMO raises more questions that it answers. The main paragraph says this: “After numerous discussions he and I had regarding the evidence for and against the use of hydroxychloroquine, we concluded the potential benefit from treatment outweighed the relative risks.” Notice what it doesn’t say: -That the doctor spoke to the President about the President using the drug himself, as opposed to its use in treatment generally. -That the doctor spoke to the President about the President using the drug as a prophylactic, rather than in the hypothetical event that he became ill. -That the doctor prescribed the drug to the President. -That the President is in fact taking the drug. Is the President is lying about taking this drug? That is probably the least bad possibility at this point. But what if he’s not lying? Where is this man who has personal control over nuclear weapons getting this drug with those side effects? Does he have, in effect, a drug dealer? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/43 "2020-05-19T05:38:08Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I’m usually the one on this board defending Trump, but this is inexcusable. It is extraordinarily irresponsible for him to be taking and/or announcing that he is taking this medication. He is not actually taking it, he just says he has been. This is just another one of his diversionary headline grabs. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/44 "2020-05-19T05:55:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He is not actually taking it, he just says he has been. This is just another one of his diversionary headline grabs. That was the reason for the “and/or” there. Either way it is inexcusable. He is starting to self-implode here and the Dems should be very happy. The stress of the pandemic is magnifying his many personality flaws. “You wanna say this drug doesn’t work? Hey, I’m taking it myself!” When he was elected, a buddy and me said that someone needed to take away his Twitter. There is no stopping his ego. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/45 "2020-05-19T06:32:45Z")
I’m guessing that within forty-eight hours, Trump will say he was telling a joke and the fake news media once again didn’t understand his refined sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/46 "2020-05-19T06:41:06Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > He is starting to self-implode here and the Dems should be very happy. If he was self-imploding on his own time, I’d feel pity for him. As it is, he’s self-imploding and taking the United States down with him. So, no, I am not at all happy. Conservatives need to understand this isn’t some meaningless sports event here. We’re not cheering for our team to beat your team. We’re trying to save everyone, including conservatives, from Donald Trump. It would help if you guys weren’t fighting us so hard as we try to save you. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/47 "2020-05-19T08:02:05Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > He is not actually taking it, he just says he has been. This is just another one of his diversionary headline grabs. Diversionary from what? The stock market had its best day in weeks and there was promising news about a vaccine. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/48 "2020-05-19T11:02:59Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > He may very well just be lying. But whether he’s lying or not, I think he wants to “get in the last word” on HCQ. He told everyone it was a game changer, and now he has to be right by taking it and presumably not catching the virus and not exhibiting any side effects of the medication. Then he’s proven right! Blech. Yes, telling everybody that he’s been drinking bleach is probably the next step. Oh. You said “blech”, not “bleach”. [EMILY\_LATELLA] Never mind… [/EMILY\_LATELLA] ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/49 "2020-05-19T11:15:44Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Diversionary from what? The stock market had its best day in weeks and there was promising news about a vaccine. The Inspector General firing, and subsequent revelations that the matter goes deeper than Pompeo using taxpayer-funded staff to take his dog to the groomer and stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/50 "2020-05-19T11:24:28Z")
I’m not going to waste time over here in IMHO, but here are a few points to consider: 1. It’s stupid to unilaterally decree Trump is lying. He obviously truly believes in hydroxychloroquine. 2. It is not somehow “illegal” for a physician to prescribe a medication off-label, unless you are talking about a situation like New York, where Cuomo issued an executive order (23 March) banning pharmacists from dispensing HCQ to patients not enrolled in a study. 3. There is plenty of pro-HCQ evidence for early use, and for prophylaxis. This is true in vitro, and in practical clinical experience. 4. SERMO intermittently summarizes what real-world clinicians around the world think of various therapeutic approaches to SARS CoV 2 infections. Something like a third of their physician interviewees prescribe HCQ for early use. 5. In the US, HCQ is widely prescribed in the setting of SARS CoV 2, and many physicians think it should be used early. Many consider it very safe. Safety profiles exist and it is so widely prescribed many physicians think it is unlikely we have somehow been missing these horrible cardiac side-effects across the hundreds of millions of doses already given. 6. For some comments from a cardiologist organizing one of the US prophylaxis studies, look up a Healio interview with William O’Neill at Henry Ford in Detroit. 7. India loves the stuff. The Indian Council of Medical Research has the official position that HCQ should be used ONLY for the exact setting in which Trump is taking it: prophylaxis of exposed persons. As compared with NY, India is kicking ass; about 1/700th the overall death rate, slums notwithstanding. It’s not as if real-world experience is somehow not providing empiric evidence. Spain, France and Italy are finally getting their pandemic under control; all are now enthusiastic supporters of early HCQ use. UK barely uses it. Take a look at new case numbers from those nations. 8. I predict that between now and November, post-exposure prophylaxis using HCQ will be recommended by Fauci. Were I blue, I would not be too hasty ridiculing it now. It will be a bitter pill to swallow if a nutcase with orange hair that I despise turns out to win an election because the public decides he was “smarter” than Sanjay Gupta. IMHO, of course. And it seems to me a bit petty to decide this should be in IMHO and not GD. Also IMHO. I will not post again on this in IMHO as the lack of rigor with which comments are challenged is not worth my time. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/51 "2020-05-19T11:30:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m guessing that within forty-eight hours, Trump will say he was telling a joke and the fake news media once again didn’t understand his refined sense of humor. Okay, one more post here b/c I admire you so much, Little Nemo. You are dead wrong. ---
**Author:** ![edwardcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cab0a1/32.png) [@edwardcoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwardcoast)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/52 "2020-05-19T12:16:34Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > If he is telling the truth is he putting his life at risk? I don’t believe he is taking it and is just saying it as a way to double-down on him hawking the drug. He only brought it up because he wants to appear he has some specialized knowledge and that he is somehow far more intelligent than anyone else. It is part of his symptoms because he has a narcissistic personality disorder: > **[Narcissistic personality disorder - Symptoms and causes](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662)** > > This mental disorder includes an unreasonably high sense of importance, a need for excessive admiration, fragile self-esteem, and troubled relationships. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/53 "2020-05-19T12:26:24Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > I’m not going to waste time over here in IMHO, but here are a few points to consider: > > 1. It’s stupid to unilaterally decree Trump is lying. He obviously truly believes in hydroxychloroquine. > > 2. It is not somehow “illegal” for a physician to prescribe a medication off-label, unless you are talking about a situation like New York, where Cuomo issued an executive order (23 March) banning pharmacists from dispensing HCQ to patients not enrolled in a study. > > 3. There is plenty of pro-HCQ evidence for early use, and for prophylaxis. This is true in vitro, and in practical clinical experience. > > 4. SERMO intermittently summarizes what real-world clinicians around the world think of various therapeutic approaches to SARS CoV 2 infections. Something like a third of their physician interviewees prescribe HCQ for early use. > > 5. In the US, HCQ is widely prescribed in the setting of SARS CoV 2, and many physicians think it should be used early. Many consider it very safe. Safety profiles exist and it is so widely prescribed many physicians think it is unlikely we have somehow been missing these horrible cardiac side-effects across the hundreds of millions of doses already given. > > 6. For some comments from a cardiologist organizing one of the US prophylaxis studies, look up a Healio interview with William O’Neill at Henry Ford in Detroit. > > 7. India loves the stuff. The Indian Council of Medical Research has the official position that HCQ should be used ONLY for the exact setting in which Trump is taking it: prophylaxis of exposed persons. As compared with NY, India is kicking ass; about 1/700th the overall death rate, slums notwithstanding. It’s not as if real-world experience is somehow not providing empiric evidence. Spain, France and Italy are finally getting their pandemic under control; all are now enthusiastic supporters of early HCQ use. UK barely uses it. Take a look at new case numbers from those nations. > > 8. I predict that between now and November, post-exposure prophylaxis using HCQ will be recommended by Fauci. Were I blue, I would not be too hasty ridiculing it now. It will be a bitter pill to swallow if a nutcase with orange hair that I despise turns out to win an election because the public decides he was “smarter” than Sanjay Gupta. > > IMHO, of course. And it seems to me a bit petty to decide this should be in IMHO and not GD. Also IMHO. > > I will not post again on this in IMHO as the lack of rigor with which comments are challenged is not worth my time. There are no credible studies indicating that Hydroxychloroquine works as an antiviral and three recent large studies that so that it is totally and utterly ineffective. > **[Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized...](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v2)** > > BACKGROUND Despite limited and conflicting data on the use of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the emergency use of this drug when clinical trials are unavailable or infeasible.... [https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/health/hydroxychloroquine-new-york-coronavirus-study/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/health/hydroxychloroquine-new-york-coronavirus-study/index.html) [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410) Oh, and when I was looking for those links I found these, which were from two more studies. > **[Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview](https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus)** > > COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it. So that’s 5. It didn’t work as antiviral fifty years ago when scientists started studying it as an antiviral and it doesn’t work now. There have been large studies that proven it was ineffective as prophylaxis against flu. However, a lot of people that take it when they are sick with COVID will get better, because most people with COVID do get better regardless. Most people that take it as a prophylaxis won’t get COVID simply because most people don’t get COVID. And I would like to point out something about the data in the 5 observational studies I linked to. If you look at the RAW numbers, you will see that the mortality and adverse event rates are DRASTICALLY higher in patients treated with Hydroxychloroquine. The researchers made adjustments to that data to reflect the fact that the treated patients were, in general, a little sicker. But as th actual data proving the ineffectiveness of this drug comes pouring in, the people that are desperate for a miracle are doubling down. I’ve seen the studies I’ve linked to above posted on social media with captions like “See, Trump was right! It works). So, I’m sorry that I don’t have fascinating and rigorous data from YouTube videos and “things people are saying”. I only have actual studies and they’re boring, ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/54 "2020-05-19T12:26:32Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > He is starting to self-implode here and the Dems should be very happy. He was self-imploding half way through his campaign, being on tape saying “grab 'em by the pussy”, attacking a gold star family, insulting McCain… the list of self imploding things he’s said and done would fill a book. When he said he could kill someone in cold blood on 5th avenue and still keep his voters… that was probably the only truly perceptive thing he’s said. He understands the people who support him, and what terrible people they are. So… no I’m not happy that he’s imploding, because the people who support him don’t care how much of a dangerous moron he is. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/55 "2020-05-19T12:52:04Z")
Maybe this was brought up but Drs. in some cases give out sugar pills to make people happy when they insist on getting something. I don’t think that is allowed any more or maybe it was never technically legal but it happened. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/56 "2020-05-19T12:59:48Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I’ve been to many, many Doctors my whole life. I’ve never been able to convince any of them to prescribe a drug I had researched and just knew I needed… I have. With more than one doctor. I completely believe that a person enormously more powerful than I am can find a doctor to prescribe whatever he wants to take. (I, of course, believe that all the drugs I have asked for were medically reasonable choices. But presumably Trump believes the same.) > [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > … > 7. India loves the stuff. The Indian Council of Medical Research has the official position that HCQ should be used ONLY for the exact setting in which Trump is taking it: prophylaxis of exposed persons. As compared with NY, India is kicking ass; about 1/700th the overall death rate, slums notwithstanding. It’s not as if real-world experience is somehow not providing empiric evidence. Spain, France and Italy are finally getting their pandemic under control; all are now enthusiastic supporters of early HCQ use. UK barely uses it. Take a look at new case numbers from those nations. India only tracks about 20% of total deaths in normal times. I don’t think we can conclude anything at all from numbers published by India. Not because they are lying, but because they don’t know, and probably can’t know. A friend of a friend reported on India a couple of weeks ago. “I see more funeral pyres than normal. But not enormously more, although it’s hard to tell. There aren’t bodies stacked up on the street like there are in Equador.” That’s the level of data we are dealing with out of India. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/57 "2020-05-19T13:02:32Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > 1. India loves the stuff. The Indian Council of Medical Research has the official position that HCQ should be used ONLY for the exact setting in which Trump is taking it: prophylaxis of exposed persons. As compared with NY, India is kicking ass; about 1/700th the overall death rate, slums notwithstanding. It’s not as if real-world experience is somehow not providing empiric evidence. Spain, France and Italy are finally getting their pandemic under control; all are now enthusiastic supporters of early HCQ use. UK barely uses it. Take a look at new case numbers from those nations. Incorrect. Here is some reporting on how [India’s COVID-19 death toll, as reported, is incorrect and why](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52435463). > [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > 1. I predict that between now and November, post-exposure prophylaxis using HCQ will be recommended by Fauci. Were I blue, I would not be too hasty ridiculing it now. It will be a bitter pill to swallow if a nutcase with orange hair that I despise turns out to win an election because the public decides he was “smarter” than Sanjay Gupta. Based on what qualifications and data do you base your prediction? America is a country in which a large percentage of the population embraces ignorance and mistrusts science. That those who supported Trump will continue to support Trump is not an indictment of science. > [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > IMHO, of course. And it seems to me a bit petty to decide this should be in IMHO and not GD. Also IMHO. > > I will not post again on this in IMHO as the lack of rigor with which comments are challenged is not worth my time. Petty, did you say? ETA: ninja’s by **puzzlegal** ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/58 "2020-05-19T13:03:54Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > After he said this, the White House doctor scrambled to put out [a letter](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/trump-physician-on-hydroxychloroquine/index.html) that IMO raises more questions that it answers. > > … > > Notice what it doesn’t say: > -That the doctor spoke to the President about the President using the drug himself, as opposed to its use in treatment generally. > -That the doctor spoke to the President about the President using the drug as a prophylactic, rather than in the hypothetical event that he became ill. > -That the doctor prescribed the drug to the President. > -That the President is in fact taking the drug. HIPAA. He can’t divulge personal medical information. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/59 "2020-05-19T13:46:49Z")
> [@Ponch8](#): > > Hopefully the [torsade de pointes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsades_de_pointes) kicks in soon. Has anyone else noticed how the ECG for this resembles his signature? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069/60 "2020-05-19T13:57:22Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > I’m not going to waste time over here in IMHO, but here are a few points to consider: I will concede that HCQ _could_ be effective; the science is still not settled (though most recent studied lean towards HCQ _not_ being effective (thanks **Ann Hedonia** )). But let me throw a point back at you: do you think it’s responsible for him to advocate for this drug at this time? (And before you say he’s not really “advocating” for this drug, you can’t have it both ways: if he gets credit if the drug works then he gets blame if it does not). Should a president be gambling with the health of the population in this way, or should he leave such advice to doctors and scientists? > [@](#): > > I will not post again on this in IMHO as the lack of rigor with which comments are challenged is not worth my time. LOL. It’s only worth my time to say my piece, and not to hear any of the ways it might get challenged. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-claims-to-be-taking-hydroxychloroquine/854069.md?page=4)