# Trump convicted! At least in the minds of the L&O:SVU writers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332 "2017-03-30T07:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/21 "2017-03-30T20:45:28Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > If you’ve been keeping a weather eye open you’ll have noticed a huge bunch of TV shows with this theme since the election > [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Not being as obsessed with Trump as the OP appears to be, I haven’t noticed any such thing, but then I don’t think there’s much room on shows like _Fast ‘n’ Loud_ and _Dancing With the Stars_ for that sort of thing. Care to provide a few examples? I think he’s referring to the nightly news. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/22 "2017-03-30T20:46:17Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think he’s referring to the nightly news. You mean the FAKE NEWS? ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/23 "2017-03-31T01:38:50Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Sad. #TrumpPoutyFace ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/24 "2017-03-31T02:07:27Z")
They did an episode a few seasons back that was clearly “inspired” by John Edwards. The OP, who has acknowledged that he’s not a frequent viewer, probably missed that one. [http://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/2012/11/14/scott-bakula-channels-john-edwards-in-svu-infidelity-episode/](http://my.xfinity.com/blogs/tv/2012/11/14/scott-bakula-channels-john-edwards-in-svu-infidelity-episode/) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/25 "2017-04-01T11:43:23Z")
[Moderating] We’ve had a number of reports about this thread. It’s borderline, but I think we can have a meaningful discussion here about the politics of Law and Order and its habit of basing episodes on current headlines. If, however, anyone wants to hash it out with another poster about their own politics, you should open a separate thread in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/26 "2017-04-01T14:24:06Z")
Sometimes, a rich prick suspect character is just a rich prick suspect character. It’s not as if Real-Life NYC has a scarcity of “rich prick” types that are loathed by other segments of the community (although it has been commented, that in the decades since the Law & Order franchise debuted actual crime in NYC has gone down so much that not even “ripped from the headlines” is enough to keep up new plots). > [@MrAtoz](#): > > I didn’t find anything especially Trump-like about the story, apart from the villain being a rich guy. Rather, it was standard SVU rich-guys-get-away-with-shit-because-they’re-rich fare, with the usual helping of Olivia guilting the victim into testifying when she wants to back out because the rich guy is destroying her life by smearing her reputation the way that rich guys do with all of their richness. > > As noted, SVU does at least one of these episodes per season. SVU does tend to go back to this well(\*) too frequently, either as the main plot, or as one of the red herrings. IIRC, in L&O Classic, it was not unknown for the case to fall apart so the “everyone knows it was him” suspect would walk, even some of those at the DA admitting they just could not make the standard for nailing him and oh, well, that’s the breaks, or even - egads! - that he got vindicated. SVU seems to me rather more like, not so much liberals or feminists or leftists, but “crime does not pay” scolds about _doink_doink\*\*\*\*JUSTICE!!!\*\*_doinkdoink_ – a lot more into finding a way that eventually \*someone _gets what’s coming to them, often to the :rolleyes: point. (Of course, AFTER some molesting/raping/torture/general assholery has been used to establish they deserve it. And maybe he got away in their original episode but then in the sequel episode we take him down good and hard.) (_) Besides the entitled prick suspect, hey also do tend to go back to one of the LEO characters guilt-tripping or badgering a victim or key witness who just wants to move on with his/her life as to how he/she just MUST help. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/27 "2017-04-01T16:26:42Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > For real. What is it about liberal politics that makes this show’s writers think it’s okay to have repetitive plots? It’s not like other shows ever do. > > Stupid liberals! Just try to imagine if conservatives did the same thing–say, had movies in which tough manly men lived in crime-infested neighborhoods and had to get revenge against the godless criminals (maybe black men?) who hurt their families. Or in which tough manly men had to fight off Arab terrorists. Pshah–ridiculous! No, liberals have totally got a lock on the “wet dream entertainment” market. There was the movie “White House Down” which was literally their Presidential stand-in for Obama (played by Jamie Fox) gunning down racist right wing white supremacist terrorists paid for by the military-industrial complex who invade the White House, except the action was mediocre, had enough plot holes to fit several battleships through, and the concept was done in general way better by the earlier released film “Olympus Has Fallen”. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/28 "2017-04-01T22:23:55Z")
Funny how “rich a-hole rapist” equals trump seems to be a calculus occurring only in the minds of trump supporters. Anyway, I’ve cited an episode based on Edwards, so it becomes clear that the L+O:SVU folks aren’t guilty so much of partisanship as the extreme laziness of letting the headlines write their stories. Can anybody else cite episodes based on other politicians and see if we can get a total of D vs. R? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332/29 "2017-04-01T23:11:28Z")
Are we counting only state- or national-level pols? I gather a number of episodes are based loosely on dirty politics in and around New York City specifically. Would “Pride” from the 5th season of L&O count? It’s supposedly based on the murder of Harvey Milk, though the connection looks pretty superficial to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-convicted-at-least-in-the-minds-of-the-l-o-svu-writers/783332.md?page=1)