# Trump could scorch the GOP on the way out **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 6, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879 "2020-11-06T03:27:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/101 "2020-12-14T22:43:42Z")
Which, if Biden was everyone’s second choice, would result in his winning the nomination by a landslide, since that is exactly the sort of candidate that approval, and ranked choice voting is designed to pick out. ---
**Author:** ![Jay\_Z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Jay\_Z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jay_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/102 "2020-12-14T23:14:01Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Sadly all that really means is that the other 28% of Republicans will do whatever the 72% want. > > America is fucked. at least for a couple more decades. Remember the Tea Party? That had nothing to do with Trump. Team R will have some reason to be outraged, Trump or no Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/103 "2020-12-14T23:18:32Z")
Exactly. Approval voting in particular may be the best process for learning which of the candidates has the broadest appeal. In primaries, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/104 "2020-12-14T23:33:22Z")
> [@Jay\_Z](#): > > > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > > > Sadly all that really means is that the other 28% of Republicans will do whatever the 72% want. > > > > America is fucked. at least for a couple more decades. > > Remember the Tea Party? That had nothing to do with Trump. > > Team R will have some reason to be outraged, Trump or no Trump. nope, but it cements that the modern conservative movement is made up of two kinds of voters and politicians. - fanatical, hateful, regressive white nationalists who reject democracy and want an authoritarian white nationalist ethnostate. - enablers the 28% will look at their shoes and go along with the crazies even though they know it’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![rboyce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rboyce/32/4066_2.png) [@rboyce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rboyce)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/105 "2021-01-29T18:39:36Z")
As I see it, the video attached should be banned from the internet. Unlock it, see it, then vomit on it [link removed by moderator] ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/106 "2021-01-29T18:43:01Z")
> [@rboyce](#): > > As I see it, the video attached should be banned from the internet. Unlock it, see it, then vomit on it I have warned you repeatedly not to link to videos in this manner as download links, and you have agreed not to. I am suspending you temporarily while your posting privileges are discussed. Edited to indicate that this is an official warning. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/107 "2021-02-01T06:17:15Z")
> **[Trump stocks new PAC with tens of millions as he bids to retain control of GOP](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/31/donald-trump-pac-millions-gop-464250)** > > Save America, Trump's new political group, launched in the aftermath of Trump's 2020 election loss. “Stop the Steal” was a scam all along, unless trump meant it ironically. > **[Trump stocks new PAC with tens of millions as he bids to retain control of GOP](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/31/donald-trump-pac-millions-gop-464250)** > > Save America, Trump's new political group, launched in the aftermath of Trump's 2020 election loss. _The money in Trump’s PAC, detailed in [a new financial report](https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00762591/1497090//) filed with the Federal Election Commission on Sunday evening, was largely raised via grassroots fundraising appeals pleading for help with legal challenges aimed at the 2020 election results. But Save America spent little money at the end of last year, reporting only $218,000 in merchant fees to Republican online donation processor WinRed._ _An affiliated joint fundraising committee — the Trump Make America Great Again Committee — has also [filed its report](https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00618371/1497174//). Recent fundraising calls from that group have said that it is splitting donations between Save America and the Republican National Committee, with 75 percent going to Trump’s leadership PAC and 25 percent going to the RNC._ _Even after transferring over $78 million to the RNC, Save America and Trump’s campaign, the joint fundraising committee still has nearly $60 million in its own coffers. Some of that money is likely earmarked for Save America, so the $31.2 million in Trump’s new PAC could be the low end of what he has at his disposal._ _The former president has already used Save America to target Republicans he sees as disloyal. The PAC’s most prominent target thus far has been Rep. Liz Cheney, the House Republican Conference chair and the most prominent GOP impeachment supporter._ ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/108 "2021-02-01T17:07:30Z")
Didn’t read the whole thread but this sounds like it belongs here from the title. [https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A1275?il=0&utm\_source=reddit.com](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A1275?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com) > [@](#): > > Dozens of Republicans in former President George W. Bush’s administration are leaving the party, dismayed by a failure of many elected Republicans to disown Donald Trump after his false claims of election fraud sparked a deadly storming of the U.S. Capitol last month. > > These officials, some who served in the highest echelons of the Bush administration, said they had hoped that a Trump defeat would lead party leaders to move on from the former president and denounce his baseless claims that the November presidential election was stolen. > … . > Kristopher Purcell, who worked in the Bush White House’s communications office for six years, said roughly 60 to 70 former Bush officials have decided to leave the party or are cutting ties with it, from conversations he has been having. “The number is growing every day,” Purcell said. Dozens of ex-Bush officials leaving the GOP. Signs of the GOP losing solidarity? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/109 "2021-02-01T17:10:01Z")
Deep State Flees Rising Storm ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/110 "2021-02-01T17:10:31Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Signs of the GOP losing solidarity? Those remaining are probably thinking of it as purifying the party – skimming off the dross. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/111 "2021-02-01T20:46:05Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > [https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A1275?il=0&utm\_source=reddit.com](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2A1275?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com) > > Dozens of ex-Bush officials leaving the GOP. Signs of the GOP losing solidarity? So wait a second – they stuck around for four years and were apparently OK with everything that happened, but needed Jan. 6 to push them over the line? More profiles in courage. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/112 "2021-02-01T20:57:15Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > So wait a second – they stuck around for four years and were apparently OK with everything that happened, but needed Jan. 6 to push them over the line? > > More profiles in courage. I think it’s more likely they waited to see where the party was going after Trump. They were hoping once he was out of office they could forget the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/113 "2021-02-01T21:30:07Z")
Perhaps also relevant. Many politicians still backing Trump. Is everyone else? [https://twitter.com/robertjdenault/status/1355714819203207170](https://twitter.com/robertjdenault/status/1355714819203207170) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/114 "2021-02-01T23:40:29Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > > [@Akaj](#): > > > > So wait a second – they stuck around for four years and were apparently OK with everything that happened, but needed Jan. 6 to push them over the line? > > > > More profiles in courage. > > I think it’s more likely they waited to see where the party was going after Trump. They were hoping once he was out of office they could forget the whole thing. Agreed. Which, as @Akaj says, is cowardly garbage unworthy of anyone calling themselves a political leader. ---
**Author:** ![Jungian\_Camisole1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jungian_camisole1/32/3646_2.png) [@Jungian\_Camisole1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jungian_Camisole1)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/115 "2021-02-02T01:25:52Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Those remaining are probably thinking of it as purifying the party – skimming off the dross. Against my better judgement, I read the comment section about this issue on The Hill. Trump’s supporters are calling all of the Republicans leaving the party RINOs that deserve to be lumped in with us “socialists”. I honestly have no problem, at all, with sane Republicans. Of course we will disagree on policy issues, but I like the balance. Unfortunately, the kooks have taken over and are issuing death threats for those who dare displease them. I find all of it incredibly sad. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/116 "2021-02-02T04:54:54Z")
I find it vaguely terrifying. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/117 "2021-02-02T09:29:05Z")
> [@Jungian\_Camisole1](#): > > Against my better judgement, I read the comment section about this issue on The Hill. Trump’s supporters are calling all of the Republicans leaving the party RINOs that deserve to be lumped in with us “socialists”. > > I honestly have no problem, at all, with sane Republicans. Of course we will disagree on policy issues, but I like the balance. Unfortunately, the kooks have taken over and are issuing death threats for those who dare displease them. I find all of it incredibly sad. I read that too - can’t remember if it was The Hill specifically but it was one of those articles about Republicans leaving because the party had become a “Trump cult”. The responses would have been funny if they hadn’t been so scary - virtually all were variants on “We’re not a cult! And how dare those RINOs insult our Dear Leader like that!”. Self-awareness is in short supply these days. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/118 "2021-02-05T16:36:23Z")
This type of thing is meaningless until Republicans currently in office start doing it. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/119 "2021-02-05T17:38:14Z")
The “could” and the “on the way out” seem suprefluous in the title by now. Trump scorch_ed_ the Republican Party. Even before leaving. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879/120 "2021-02-05T17:53:47Z")
It’ remains to be seen how much future scorching he will do, but for darn sure he’s left a lasting mark even if he was to drop dead tomorrow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-could-scorch-the-gop-on-the-way-out/924879.md?page=7)