# Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 27, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062 "2020-10-27T21:13:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/61 "2020-10-28T15:46:16Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is pretty basics politics 101. You really think he’d be doing better if he was staying at home doing videos in his basement?

This “basement” crap has gotten rather stale. Try to be more original than Trump-It can’t be _that_ hard.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/62 "2020-10-28T17:56:54Z")

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The “basement” is a media protection zone asking him tough questions like what kind of ice cream he’s eating.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/63 "2020-10-28T17:59:13Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The “basement” is a media protection zone asking him tough questions like what kind of ice cream he’s eating

Do you tell that to yourself, or is that just stuff you push on others?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/64 "2020-10-28T18:13:34Z")

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It’s whistling past the graveyard.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/65 "2020-10-28T18:15:44Z")

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It is what he is told by the media outlets that he has chosen to consume and believe.

And it is true, a reporter did once ask Biden what ice cream flavor he had chosen, as he left an ice cream shop. Therefore, that is the only question that he has ever been asked, if you follow right wing media.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/66 "2020-10-28T18:18:22Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The “basement” is a media protection zone asking him tough questions like what kind of ice cream he’s eating…

Man, don’t ask Trump that question, or he’ll storm out of the interview whining that the questions were so meeeeannnn to him.

Trump is now bitching about the cold, and insulting the very people who come out to see him.

> “It wasn’t even going to be like we had an election,” Trump said on a rain-drenched tarmac in Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday, lamenting that the coronavirus had imperiled his political prospects and, in his telling, forced him to return to the cold grind and meteorological mishaps of the campaign trail.
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> “I probably wouldn’t be standing out here in the freezing rain with you,” he told a crowd of hearty souls who had been standing for hours in persistent drizzle to hear him speak. “I’d be home in the White House, doing whatever the hell I was doing. I wouldn’t be out here.”

> We win Wisconsin, we win the whole ballgame," he said last week on yet another frigid airport tarmac, this time in Janesville. “What the hell do you think I’m doing here on a freezing night with 45-degree winds?”
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> “Do you think I’m doing this for my health?” he continued as the temperature dropped and some of the crowd began trickling out. “I’m not doing this for my health.”

What a complaining, whining little baby.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/67 "2020-10-28T18:22:07Z")

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And it was great how the Trump campaign abandoned a bunch of elderly supporters in sub-zero temperatures after bussing them out to the middle of nowhere, and then leaving them there.

At this point, I think that Trump’s “rallys” are actually going to piss off more of his supporters, causing them to just skip the election, or actually kill or sicken his supporters. He’s actually LOSING votes with these idiotic rallys.

> A week earlier at the Des Moines airport, he warned a crowd of adoring fans huddled outside a plane hangar he’d never return unless they reward him with Iowa’s six electoral votes.
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> “I may never have to come back here again if I don’t get Iowa,” he said. “I’ll never be back.”

Ya, that’s really going to inspire people to vote for him. Whiny little baby.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/68 "2020-10-29T01:04:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Do you tell that to yourself, or is that just stuff you push on others?

“[Mr Biden, Mr Biden, what flavor ice cream did you get](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml7FhDbbDE)”

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/69 "2020-10-29T01:18:59Z")

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Jesus, imagine what kind of person takes Sean Fucking Spicer serious enough to listen to his mouse-fart voice talk politics.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/70 "2020-10-29T01:21:42Z")

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You know that Biden has had an extensive town hall, and numerous interviews recently, and Trump threw a tantrum because he was so fucking weak he couldn’t handle reasonable questions by 60 minutes?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/71 "2020-10-29T01:22:55Z")

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’ no body asks me what kind of ice cream I got ,IT’S NOT FARE!!!’  
DJT

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/72 "2020-10-29T01:24:32Z")

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I GET TWO SCOOPS!!1 Why does Biden get two scoops!1!1

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/73 "2020-10-29T01:35:44Z")

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Must be a difficult question, because Trump [couldn’t answer it.](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/donald-trump-moans-hes-never-22877706)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/74 "2020-10-29T12:42:24Z")

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And that’s the only question that Biden has ever been asked, huh?

It is likely that, given the media outlets that you have chosen to consume, that that is the only question that you have seen asked, but that is because you have chosen to consume media that intentionally presents a false narrative in order to exert control over you, to take away your agency and make you a tool and a puppet to their own ends.

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**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/75 "2020-10-29T12:58:25Z")

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I find it interesting that the size of the crowds at the campaign events is being stressed by the OP, but the size of the early voting crowds is being ignored. In places like Texas, I last saw that the number of people simply who have voted early is at 91% of the total voters in 2016, and there’s been plenty of discussion around huge turnout of traditionally D voters like first-timers, minorities, etc. If people want to read tea leaves and make predictions, I’d think those would be more appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/76 "2020-10-29T15:57:22Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> If you have any evidence that crowd size is correlated with victory I’d love to see it.

Perhaps I can help him out with that. Sean Spicer and his “alternative” facts not withstanding – Obama had a _much_ larger inauguration crowd than Trump did and Obama was a better POTUS by several orders of magnitude. So in that case at least, crowd size did indicate superiority if not victory.

All that to say that Trump is not a leader at all. Just a reality TV personality who mistakes ratings for quality. Apparently many of his supporters do also.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/77 "2020-10-29T16:24:27Z")

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> [@Temporary\_Name](#):
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> All that to say that Trump is not a leader at all.

Trump even said so himself.

[Tweet dated 8 November 2013](https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/398887965302091776?lang=en): “Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”

13 March 2020: “I don’t take responsibility at all."

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/78 "2020-10-29T16:29:38Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Must be a difficult question, because Trump [couldn’t answer it.](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/donald-trump-moans-hes-never-22877706)

Damned if there isn’t a hypocrisy or situation in which Trump hasn’t already embarrassed himself. You gotta hand it to the fucking moron. He is nothing if not thorough… ly cartoonish.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/79 "2020-10-29T16:34:00Z")

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Why doesn’t Biden hold more big rallys where people are left stranded in the cold walking back to their cars because the campaign could not organize themselves out of a wet paper bag?

Why doesn’t the Biden campaign rely on taxpayer funded police and local busses to do their work for them in organizing crowd dispersal?

I guess Biden is just not a good businessman, and actually pays for everything with his own campaign funds. Loser.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-crowds-vs-biden-crowds/924062/80 "2020-10-29T17:23:43Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> You know that Biden has had an extensive town hall,

Biden hasn’t had an extensive anything. He’s completely sheltered from any meaningful questions.

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