# Trump-Cruz? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 7, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317 "2016-07-07T16:31:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/21 "2016-07-08T00:16:54Z")
Treasury. To let him have a real chance to destroy the credit rating of the US gov’t, not just have to wait for debt ceiling votes. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/22 "2016-07-08T00:44:27Z")
Cruz MIGHT take the #2 spot if he thought Trump had a snowball’s chance of winning. But Trump is going to get stomped and no smart Republican wants to go down with him. Cruz is already working on his 2020 campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/23 "2016-07-08T02:32:09Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Cruz has no friends and few allies left in the Senate, so this may be the only road that doesn’t go straight to Palookaville for him. Same for Christie and New Jerseyites. Either one would suck it up, like GHWB sucking up “voodoo economics”, and take it. Except that Bush was hitching his political future to Ronald Reagan. Joining up with Trump, on the other hand, would be the political equivalent of buying a ticket on the Titanic after the iceberg hit. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/24 "2016-07-08T02:33:23Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Trump is said to be meeting right now with Ted Cruz and Reince Preibus. > > Trump-Cruz… or Cruz-Trump? Oh please baby Jesus let this be true. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/25 "2016-07-08T05:33:40Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > No way in hell. Cruz has too much pride to play second fiddle to a guy that accused his dad of being in on the JFK assassination and who tweets unflattering pictures of his wife. > [@DigitalC](#): > > Cruz/Trump would be a smart move, but Trump is incapable of deferring to someone else. Ironic. Both of them remind me of Number Two… ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/26 "2016-07-08T10:57:00Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Most Republicans are running from the invite to be his VP. Cruz isn’t bright enough to run, he’ll probably fall for it. I seriously doubt it. Cruz is many things awful, but he’s also wicked smart. More wicked than smart, but still smart nevertheless. Cruz will probably be talked into playing some kind of supporting role, which Cruz will probably interpret to mean that he will agree not to be disruptive at the Convention. But there’s a reason people are avoiding Trump like the plague – even Corker. They’re taking the long-term view and hedging bets that Trump won’t be around in 2017. These are guys who are a track record of winning at politics, so they know a loser when they see one. And they all seem to see one in Trump. Cruz, of all people, seems least likely to take the bait. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/27 "2016-07-08T11:41:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Ironic. Both of them remind me of Number Two… I don’t know if I’m supposed to feel insulted or not. Guess I no longer understand six year old humor. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/28 "2016-07-08T11:55:52Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Cruz will probably be talked into playing some kind of supporting role, which Cruz will probably interpret to mean that he will agree not to be disruptive at the Convention. Yeah, I think they were just trying to come to an agreement to avoid an ugly floor fight at the convention. Under current rules, Cruz won enough states to be nominated, and hence gets to make a speech. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/29 "2016-07-08T13:28:52Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t know if I’m supposed to feel insulted or not. Guess I no longer understand six year old humor. Poop. Turds. Doo-doo. Dookie. Number 2. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/30 "2016-07-08T13:40:57Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Poop. Turds. Doo-doo. Dookie. Number 2. No shit? My thought was that Cruz-Trump might be the only path to salvaging anything from this election for the Pubs. However bad Cruz is, he’s Abe Linkin compared to Trump. And it would safely compartment the Trumpster. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/31 "2016-07-08T13:43:03Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Poop. Turds. Doo-doo. Dookie. Number 2. That much I know. Why those two posts in particular bring it to mind, I can’t see. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/32 "2016-07-08T13:53:03Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > No shit? > > My thought was that Cruz-Trump might be the only path to salvaging anything from this election for the Pubs. However bad Cruz is, he’s Abe Linkin compared to Trump. And it would safely compartment the Trumpster. You mean the same Abe who suspended habeas corpus? Cruz would savage (or attempt to) the Constitution like no other. His SCOTUS picks would make Scalia look like a raving liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/33 "2016-07-08T14:09:10Z")
I know. But Trump wouldn’t stop with the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/34 "2016-07-08T18:10:24Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Cruz has no friends and few allies left in the Senate, so this may be the only road that doesn’t go straight to Palookaville for him. Same for Christie and New Jerseyites. Cruz retains a strong base of support among likely 2020 GOP primary voters, in part _because_ he’s not well liked by the ‘GOP establishment’, nor will he face any trouble getting re-elected Senator. The trick for him is to avoid diminishing it either by appearing to ‘de facto support Hillary’ by keeping too much distance from Trump (as Never Trump GOP’ers are and will be accused of), or from appearing too close to Trump assuming Trump loses, which Cruz probably assumes. What was agreed yesterday, Cruz gets speaking slot at the convention without offering an endorsement of Trump, fits the bill for Cruz. And Trump in his saner moments has no reason to care if particular GOP’ers ‘endorse’ him as long as willing to campaign against Hillary. There’s no reason to think Cruz is a likely VP pick for Trump. It is true that Trump is Christie’s last chance to maintain a political career, either as VP or a cabinet appointment assuming Trump wins, he’s term limited out as Governor next year and couldn’t win an election for dog catcher now in NJ anyway. And it’s also not going to hurt Christie to maintain Trump as a friend if Christie leaves politics, Christie probably figures. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/35 "2016-07-08T19:11:26Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > But there’s a reason people are avoiding Trump like the plague – even Corker. They’re taking the long-term view and hedging bets that Trump won’t be around in 2017. These are guys who are a track record of winning at politics, so they know a loser when they see one. And they all seem to see one in Trump. Cruz, of all people, seems least likely to take the bait. Right now, Cruz is the only Republican who’s benefiting from the Trump campaign. In 2020, he’ll be selling the idea that _“Sure, Trump lost big time and cost the party a lot. We should have nominated a True Conservative. Like me. If you had nominated me in 2016, we would have beat Clinton. So I’m the best shot to beat her now.”_ A lot of that is nonsense. But it’s nonsense the Republican Party wants to believe. So the last thing Cruz wants to do is devalue his political stock by being part of the Trump fiasco. He wants to be remembered as the guy who tried to save the party from Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/36 "2016-07-08T19:21:21Z")
\*Old man Ailes is stretchin out my shoes No chance a’sittin’ or a’singin’ the blues So be my guest, If you got nothin’ to lose Won’t ya let me Screw you with a… Trump-Cruz??? Oo-ee, oo-ee baby Oo-ee, oo-ee baby Oo-ee, oo-ee baby Won’t ya let me Screw you with a Trump-Cruz??? \* ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/37 "2016-07-08T20:13:30Z")
Wouldn’t be the first time he contemplated tapping a daughter. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/38 "2016-07-08T21:21:15Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Wouldn’t be the first time he contemplated tapping a daughter. Quoted for OH SNAP ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/39 "2016-07-09T03:00:01Z")
What if Trump/Cruz is the winning ticket and Trump resigns the office after being sworn in? I think he’s spiteful enough to pull a stunt like that. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317/40 "2016-07-09T03:32:32Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Cruz MIGHT take the #2 spot if he thought Trump had a snowball’s chance of winning. But Trump is going to get stomped and no smart Republican wants to go down with him. > > Cruz is already working on his 2020 campaign. That’s why Gingrich is a likely bet - his political career can’t get any deader. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-cruz/759317.md?page=3)