# Trump defense throwing insurrectionists under bus. What does his base think afterwards? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 12, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766 "2021-02-12T14:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/41 "2021-02-15T01:43:02Z")
Trump voters are not well informed. I expect many of them are unaware they’ve been thrown under the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/42 "2021-02-15T01:53:11Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’m guessing that Stranger was (implicitly) comparing the idiots who follow Trump to the idiots who populated _Arrested Development_ –a show narrated by Ron Howard. Let’s just say I’m surprised Trump didn’t try to appoint Judge Reinhold to the Supreme Court. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/43 "2021-02-15T05:31:09Z")
Plenty of Trump supporters believe that when he does stuff like blaming his base, he doesn’t really mean it and is only saying so because he’s been forced to or to throw the bad guys (MSM, social media, Dems) off his scent. They just _know_ that in his heart of hearts, he’s one of them and would never, ever sincerely throw them under the bus. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/44 "2021-02-15T14:19:01Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Plenty of Trump supporters believe that when he does stuff like blaming his base, he doesn’t really mean it and is only saying so because he’s been forced to […] Well, gee, I believe that too. Now, they may further think he’s secretly got their backs, whereas I think he secretly holds them in total contempt for being losers. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/45 "2021-02-15T20:33:49Z")
> [@Napier](#): > > Now, they may further think he’s secretly got their backs, whereas I think he secretly holds them in total contempt for being losers. Even this is no secret. Recall that news item from last September or so, that he reportedly expressed disgust at having to shake hands with all those low-life people at his rallies. > **[Trump said coronavirus was good because he didn’t have shake hands with...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-coronavirus-good-thing-shake-hands-disgusting-people-olivia-troye-b480406.html)** > > Former top advisor to Mike Pence says president remarked: ‘Maybe this Covid thing is a good thing’ > [@](#): > > Ms Troye alleges that, during one task force meeting she attended, the president said: “Maybe this Covid thing is a good thing. I don’t like shaking hands with people. I don’t have to shake hands with these disgusting people.” > > She said: “Those disgusting people are the same people that he claims to care about. These are the people still going to his rallies today who have complete faith in who he is. The truth is he doesn’t actually care about anyone else but himself.” ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/46 "2021-02-15T20:44:29Z")
The base is hopeless. They believe he was sent from God to rid us of liberals and is by definition infallible. They would walk into a fire wearing a gasoline-soaked suit for him. Those who got caught were unworthy of his greatness and what happens to these imperfect souls is of no consequence. Only Herr Donald matters, mere mortals simply do not compare. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/47 "2021-02-15T21:11:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > They line up for the next bus. While saying, “Thank you, sir, may I have some more?” ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/48 "2021-02-15T21:38:49Z")
Or Judge Judy I always imagined his endorsement of her would go something like this. Judge Judy, we need Judge Judy. She’s tough but fair, everyone that watches TV knows that Judge Judy is a good judge. And she’s successful, she has a gorgeous home. It’s no Mar-a-Largo, but it’s classy, she’s classy. These other judges they recommend, they are people I’ve never heard of. No one knows them. One of those judges, he lives in a three bedroom house in a not so nice area. How can someone like that be a good judge? Judge Judy, she knows how to judge, she’s made a lot of big money judging so she must be the best. Of course, I imagined that before JJ came out as a Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/49 "2021-02-16T00:09:27Z")
Neither Judge Judy nor Judge Reinhold had a chance with Trump, no matter how much he might have wanted them, because neither appeared on the Federalist Society lists. Trump may be stupid, but he’s not stupid. (So to speak.) \ > [@BobLibDem](#): > > The base is hopeless. They believe he was sent from God to rid us of liberals and is by definition infallible. They would walk into a fire wearing a gasoline-soaked suit for him. Those who got caught were unworthy of his greatness and what happens to these imperfect souls is of no consequence. Only Herr Donald matters, mere mortals simply do not compare. Of evidentiary interest: the letter from relatives of Republican Representative Adam Kinzinger, famous for having voted to impeach Trump, in which they inform him he’s now part of the Devil’s Army: > ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/50 "2021-02-16T15:54:50Z")
False flag letter, written by antifa. NEXT ! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/51 "2021-02-16T16:31:19Z")
A transcription appears in today’s Votemaster: > [ElectoralVote](https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2021/Pres/Maps/Feb16.html#item-1) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/52 "2021-02-16T16:44:00Z")
“_MAGAbot says ‘What bus?’_” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/53 "2021-02-16T16:53:02Z")
A few choice sections from the letter. > You should be very proud that you have lost the respect of Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Greg Kelly, etc. and most importantly in our book, Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and us! Ohhhh! Noes! He’s lost the respect of Mark Levin! How ever will he survive! Also: > We are not judging you. This letter is our opinion of you! Um, isn’t that the very definition of judging? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/54 "2021-02-16T17:11:11Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Um, isn’t that the very definition of judging? Sometimes the worst insult is an accurate description. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/55 "2021-02-16T17:35:41Z")
So many levels of idiocy in that letter, but if I’m Kinzinger I’m most upset with the idea that one vote against Trump means he’s joined the Democratic party. Never mind his 95% conservative voting record (which I’m making up, but it’s likely pretty accurate), never mind all the GOP-aligned work he’ll do in the future. That’s it, you’re history, you’re one of THEM, go to hell. (But we’re not judging you.) ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/56 "2021-02-16T18:12:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > “ _MAGAbot says ‘What bus?’_ ” “What armed insurrection?” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/57 "2021-02-16T18:24:13Z")
The thing is, in the worldview of Kinzinger’s relatives, he has gone against GOD’S CHOSEN PROPHET (profit) When these folks were going on and on about how “the left” thought Obama was the Messiah (a thing that the left never actually did), they were engaging in a massive amount of projection. The religious right _wanted desperately_ to have a messiah of their own. To such a degree that they went out and got one that was a disgusting, amoral husk of a man, and elevated him to that status. One thinks of the film “Life of Brian”, where the people follow all sorts of folks and declare them to be the Messiah. “Well I say he is the Messiah, and I should know, I’ve followed a few” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/58 "2021-02-16T19:06:59Z")
Read yer konstitooshun! “_The right of the people - er, white men - to insurrect, necessary to the security of a confederate, white nationalist patriarchy, shall not be infringed._” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/59 "2021-02-17T01:06:06Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > A transcription appears in today’s Votemaster: > > > [ElectoralVote](https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2021/Pres/Maps/Feb16.html#item-1) Interesting commentary there; thanks for linking it. (The polling information that followed the discussion of the letter was a good read, too.) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766/60 "2021-02-17T01:14:28Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The base is hopeless. They believe he was sent from God to rid us of liberals and is by definition infallible. There are still a number of “Trump 2020” flags flying in my neighborhood. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-defense-throwing-insurrectionists-under-bus-what-does-his-base-think-afterwards/932766.md?page=4)