# Trump Deplorables go to prison for exercising their 1st Amend. rights **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2017, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042 "2017-02-28T16:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/61 "2017-03-01T14:07:02Z")
> [@Hillary Clinton](#): > > You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of **Trump’s supporters** into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? **The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic – you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.** He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America." > > "But the other basket – and I know this because I see friends from all over America here – I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas – as well as, you know, New York and California – but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. Bolding is mine. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/62 "2017-03-01T14:08:03Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > What exactly does this have to do with Trump? Don’t be stupid. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/63 "2017-03-01T14:49:15Z")
I think “What does this have to do with Trump?” is a perfectly valid question. The incident did not happen last week; it happened in October of 2015. At that point Trump was formally campaigning for President but no primaries had taken place and Trump had support about Republicans ranging in the area of 20 percent. He was not the favourite to be nominated. Such attention as was focused on him was about two issues; the Great Wall of Mexico and a plan to “track” Muslims. You would be hard pressed to convince me these assholes did this because some New York businessman who didn’t like Mexicans was running for President but would probably lose. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/64 "2017-03-01T15:11:08Z")
The OP doesn’t blame Trump for this. It simply refers to these people as Trump Deplorables, which is probably a reasonable guess. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/65 "2017-03-02T09:40:53Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > _TELL_ me about it! > I work at a hotel near a USMC base. We have a discounted government rate but like all discounted rates there is a cap on it. Sometimes we reach that cap, rooms are still available at the regular rate but the discount is not available. > > But I’ll not infrequently get a Marine coming in from the local bars telling me that I _have to_ give him a room at a government rate. That I _have to_!!! > > Geez! Nobody reads the 3rd! The Third Amendment only mentions Soldiers… not Marines (or Sailors or Airmen). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/66 "2017-03-02T10:50:09Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Don’t be stupid. With enemies like you, Trump’s success is assured. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/67 "2017-03-02T18:06:11Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I think “What does this have to do with Trump?” is a perfectly valid question. The incident did not happen last week; it happened in October of 2015. At that point Trump was formally campaigning for President but no primaries had taken place and Trump had support about Republicans ranging in the area of 20 percent. He was not the favourite to be nominated. Such attention as was focused on him was about two issues; the Great Wall of Mexico and a plan to “track” Muslims. > > You would be hard pressed to convince me these assholes did this because some New York businessman who didn’t like Mexicans was running for President but would probably lose. Oh stop that. You are inserting sanity and facts into the SDMB Hate-a-thon. That isn’t good. See, what you are supposed to do is pretend that anyone who does not agree with the SDMB groupthink is 100% is a racist/sexist/\ pig that does not deserve to live. And anyone who agrees with the SDMB groupthink is a saint. That way you can get your daily moral outrage in quick and easy, no thinking involved, and can go back to day dreaming about how perfect the world would be if Saint Clinton (she who can do no wrong) was Queen. Really, you need to get with the program and stop noting inconvenient facts and actually analyzing events in a logical manner. Just go with the hate and all will be well. Slee ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/68 "2017-03-02T18:10:49Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Oh stop that. You are inserting sanity and facts into the SDMB Hate-a-thon. That isn’t good. > > See, what you are supposed to do is pretend that anyone who does not agree with the SDMB groupthink is 100% is a racist/sexist/\ pig that does not deserve to live. > > And anyone who agrees with the SDMB groupthink is a saint. > > That way you can get your daily moral outrage in quick and easy, no thinking involved, and can go back to day dreaming about how perfect the world would be if Saint Clinton (she who can do no wrong) was Queen. > > Really, you need to get with the program and stop noting inconvenient facts and actually analyzing events in a logical manner. Just go with the hate and all will be well. > > Slee Man, you sure did a number on those straw men! Those straw men are deader 'n dead! Well done! ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/69 "2017-03-02T21:10:10Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Oh stop that. You are inserting sanity and facts into the SDMB Hate-a-thon. That isn’t good. > > See, what you are supposed to do is pretend that anyone who does not agree with the SDMB groupthink is 100% is a racist/sexist/\ pig that does not deserve to live. > > And anyone who agrees with the SDMB groupthink is a saint. > > That way you can get your daily moral outrage in quick and easy, no thinking involved, and can go back to day dreaming about how perfect the world would be if Saint Clinton (she who can do no wrong) was Queen. > > Really, you need to get with the program and stop noting inconvenient facts and actually analyzing events in a logical manner. Just go with the hate and all will be well. > > Slee What the fuck is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/70 "2017-03-03T01:41:25Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Well, that’s how Steve Bannon might see it. > > [http://www.cbs46.com/story/34456039/2-convicted-for-racially-charged-threats-against-black-people-at-party](http://www.cbs46.com/story/34456039/2-convicted-for-racially-charged-threats-against-black-people-at-party) > > In reality, a bunch of redneck racists decided to crash the birthday party of an eight year old black girl with Confederate flags, hillbilly trucks, racial epithets, and shotguns. Oh yeah, and threats of murder against parents and children. > > Now two of them have been convicted and are going to prison for a long time. > > Adios, you no-count motherfuckers. I hope you rot in hell. When the news hit Yahoo, I posted this comment directed at the whining, crying, lying woman who said, “That is not me. I’m sorry that happened to you.” > [@Monty (using his Yahoo ID over on Yahoo)](#): > > Oh, yes, lady, it is you. That is exactly what you were–and are. You two were so proud to trot out that racist banner, yell racist slogans, and abuse someone of another race because, yes, that is you. Of course you would never walk up to someone and say those words you shouted from the safety of your vehicle. You are a coward, like all racists. The banner is racist. You are racist. Of course you deserve to do hard time in prison for your terrorism. Oh, that did not “happen to” your victims. YOU terrorized your victims. Come on, you racist coward. Admit your hatred and ignorance, you liar. > > The various confederate flags do celebrate a culture: a culture of racism, a culture of abuse, a culture of treating other people like property based on their race. The South Carolina legislature was correct in its decision to remove that disgusting rag from its position of prominence; however, those who removed it were incorrect in the way they removed it with honor accorded to it. Anyone who says that they are celebrating culture with that damn rag is, in reality, telling a truth: they are celebrating the culture of slavery. If they are not celebrating slavery, then they are celebrating racism. One cannot legitimately sever the link between the rag and the racism it represents. One more thing on the removal I referred to above: the rag was removed in a ceremony showing it the same honor accorded to the flag of the United States of America. It was a bit like watching the funeral of a fallen hero. That is all kinds of wrong. Might as well have run up a KKK hood in its place. THAT, my friends, is what those “deplorables” in this terroristic attack on a child were celebrating. Damn liars. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/71 "2017-03-03T13:21:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Man, you sure did a number on those straw men! Those straw men are deader 'n dead! Well done! Its a bit hyperbolic but there is some truth to what he is saying. SDMB is turning into a liberal bubble. Has been for some time. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/72 "2017-03-03T13:44:33Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Its a bit hyperbolic but there is some truth to what he is saying. SDMB is turning into a liberal bubble. Has been for some time. I blame the new version of “conservatism” which relies too heavily on bad arguments and bad information to gain converts. It’s a turn off for many folks. Bill Buckley jr would be a liberal by today’s standards. …especially since he was rather opposed to the Ruskies. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/73 "2017-03-03T14:18:27Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Oh stop that. You are inserting sanity and facts into the SDMB Hate-a-thon. That isn’t good. > > See, what you are supposed to do is pretend that anyone who does not agree with the SDMB groupthink is 100% is a racist/sexist/\ pig that does not deserve to live. > > And anyone who agrees with the SDMB groupthink is a saint. > > That way you can get your daily moral outrage in quick and easy, no thinking involved, and can go back to day dreaming about how perfect the world would be if Saint Clinton (she who can do no wrong) was Queen. > > Really, you need to get with the program and stop noting inconvenient facts and actually analyzing events in a logical manner. Just go with the hate and all will be well. > > Slee Don’t you have something better to do, like go get your mullet trimmed? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/74 "2017-03-03T14:21:49Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > With enemies like you, Trump’s success is assured. With lapdogs like you, there’s also no way he can succeed. It seems we are at an impasse. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/75 "2017-03-03T15:21:56Z")
It does seem odd to drag Trump into this. There’s more than enough to actually blame him for without fishing. OTOH, fuck these racist assholes for threatening children with shotguns. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/76 "2017-03-03T15:30:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It does seem odd to drag Trump into this. The only person I dragged into this was Steve Bannon. It was others (who must have went to the same alternative high schools as the convicted knuckleheads) who think this thread is about the President and started whining about it. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/77 "2017-03-03T16:02:28Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > The only person I dragged into this was Steve Bannon. It was others (who must have went to the same alternative high schools as the convicted knuckleheads) who think this thread is about the President and started whining about it. Given that the first word in the OP is Trump, it’s kind of hard not to draw the inference that some sort of association was being made here. I know. Call me crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/78 "2017-03-03T16:08:41Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Given that the first word in the OP is Trump, it’s kind of hard not to draw the inference that some sort of association was being made here. I know. Call me crazy. No, you’re just stupid in that you read only the first word of a two-page long thread. Here’s the first full sentence of the OP: “Well, that’s how Steve Bannon might see it.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/79 "2017-03-03T16:08:43Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Given that the first word in the OP is Trump, it’s kind of hard not to draw the inference that some sort of association was being made here. I know. Call me crazy. If I start a thread about the Chicago Cubs, would you think the subject under discussion was the city or the baseball team? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042/80 "2017-03-03T16:09:53Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > If I start a thread about the Chicago Cubs, would you think the subject under discussion was the city or the baseball team? :dubious: If you wrote “Cubs fans go to prison for exercising their 1st Amend. rights” I would assume you are tying the Cubs into it somehow, that it is somehow salient to the story, and it’s not just a word you picked for no reason. The point obviously (but maybe not, since you missed it) wasn’t what the literal first word was; it’s that the name was drawn into the discussion immediately by the OP. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-deplorables-go-to-prison-for-exercising-their-1st-amend-rights/781042.md?page=5)