# Trump fell in love with Kim Jong Un

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 30, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212 "2018-09-30T12:55:35Z")
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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/1 "2018-09-30T12:55:35Z")

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And we laughed when Bush held hands with the Saudi king

> **[Trump: Kim Jong Un and I fell in love | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/09/30/trump-kim-jong-un-fell-in-love-west-virginia-rally-bts-vpx.cnn)**
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> While speaking at a rally in Wheeling, West Virginia, President Donald Trump says that he and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "fell in love."

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### Author: ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/2 "2018-09-30T14:18:01Z")

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I laughed because it was better than crying at the relationship between the Bush family and the House of Saud. More, at the relationship between _my nation_ and the Saudis.

But…would you like to offer a topic for discussion? “Trump sucks” is a decent starting place, I suppose, but seems insufficient given the target-rich environment.

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### Author: ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/3 "2018-09-30T15:07:18Z")

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yet another example of how he has diarrhea of the mouth. He has no filter between his brain and his mouth. The same goes for his brain and twitter.

I would have loved to see the looks on the faces of his aides when he said this. Also it’s funny he said this in WV which is about as red a state as you can find. Trump got 68% there in 2016. He won every county in WV.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/4 "2018-09-30T15:16:08Z")

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I’ll bet that baker in Colorado would be _ecstatic_ to make their cake.

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### Author: ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/5 "2018-09-30T15:41:00Z")

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I’m trying to picture Republicans not saying anything about this had Obama said these things, but so far no luck.

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/6 "2018-09-30T15:41:53Z")

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So it’s a love that dare speak its name after all, I guess.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/7 "2018-09-30T16:49:31Z")

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There is an internet phenomenon of pornographic fiction centered on well=known public figures like Kim, Trump and Elton John. This is _not_ a request for links, but begging for a promise not to.

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### Author: ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/8 "2018-09-30T17:28:23Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’m trying to picture Republicans not saying anything about this had Obama said these things, but so far no luck.

Yeah. This.

Obama said he’s talk to North Korea in 2008 and they freaked the fuck out. Imagine if he said he fell in love.

“[Barack Obama’s] willingness to meet with North Korea is one of the most disturbing displays of Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience.” - Sean Hannity (2008)

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### Author: ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/9 "2018-09-30T18:36:02Z")

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Maybe Kim Jong Un was the only world leader with hands smaller than Trump?

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### Author: ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/10 "2018-09-30T18:39:16Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> So it’s a love that dare speak its name after all, I guess.

I believe an alternative formulation would be “The love that won’t shut up”.

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### Author: ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/11 "2018-09-30T21:00:30Z")

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Morbid curiosity: Is this getting any coverage in Korean language press? What’s the reception like?

I hope some of our Korean speaking Dopers will weigh in.

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### Author: ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/12 "2018-09-30T22:20:12Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> There is an internet phenomenon of pornographic fiction centered on well=known public figures like Kim, Trump and Elton John. This is _not_ a request for links, but begging for a promise not to.

Oh, yes, X-rated fan fiction. The first one I ever saw was titled “Near Wild Heaven” 😉 and featured the straight members of R.E.M. getting it on. Someone else described it as “unadulterated puke” and that was apropos.

My SIL said, “That’s one drawback of being famous - people with too much time on their hands will do things like that.”

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### Author: ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/13 "2018-09-30T22:31:28Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> yet another example of how he has diarrhea of the mouth. He has no filter between his brain and his mouth. The same goes for his brain and twitter.
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> I would have loved to see the looks on the faces of his aides when he said this. Also it’s funny he said this in WV which is about as red a state as you can find. Trump got 68% there in 2016. He won every county in WV.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’m trying to picture Republicans not saying anything about this had Obama said these things, but so far no luck.

There’s a theory that Trump said this deliberately—possibly on the advice of Sean Hannity or some other of that ilk—with the expectation that all the major media outlets would make it their top headline and have pundits opining about it for days.

In other words, Trump said it to troll the media.

I find that quite plausible–not that he thought of it on his own, but that one of his slimier sidekicks suggested it and he loved the idea.

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### Author: ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)
#### Post date: [October 1, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/14 "2018-10-01T15:11:57Z")

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Trump is going to find out the hard way that Putin is a jealous man.

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### Author: ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/15 "2018-10-04T08:44:17Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Morbid curiosity: Is this getting any coverage in Korean language press? What’s the reception like?
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> I hope some of our Korean speaking Dopers will weigh in.

The Korean far right who thinks the current South Korean President is a communist dupe or spy are hopping mad at the perceived betrayal. Most of the Korean people, OTOH, are rather relieved that Trump’s going with President Moon’s peace process and thus successively reducing tensions rather than the “fire and fury” rhetoric seen last year. The politics of this issue are weird to say the least; many reflexively anti-Trump liberals in the United States are aping far-right Korean rhetoric in denouncing Trump as another Neville Chamberlain for meeting with Kim Jong-Un while the reflexively pro-Trump MAGA people are celebrating the peace process along with Korean progressives.

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### Author: ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/16 "2018-10-04T18:36:37Z")

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Sure, let’s celebrate the peace process. Donald Trump has successfully stopped Donald Trump from threatening war, so he’s got that going for him.

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### Author: ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)
#### Post date: [October 4, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/17 "2018-10-04T21:41:18Z")

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Has anyone told Melania?

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/18 "2018-10-05T04:11:31Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> There’s a theory that Trump said this deliberately—possibly on the advice of Sean Hannity or some other of that ilk—with the expectation that all the major media outlets would make it their top headline and have pundits opining about it for days.
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> In other words, Trump said it to troll the media.
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> I find that quite plausible–not that he thought of it on his own, but that one of his slimier sidekicks suggested it and he loved the idea.

Sounds too much like 3d chess nonsense to me.

You don’t divert attention away from the perception that you’re an idiot by acting like a bigger idiot. That just confirms what people are saying about you.

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### Author: ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/19 "2018-10-05T04:16:40Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Sure, let’s celebrate the peace process. Donald Trump has successfully stopped Donald Trump from threatening war, so he’s got that going for him.

The peace process? Have you seen how Trump’s treated the other people in his life that he’s declared his love for? What happens when Trump decides things aren’t working out between him and Kim and he needs to end the relationship? Kim won’t get off as easy as Trump’s other exes; he’s got access to nuclear weapons now.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-fell-in-love-with-kim-jong-un/822212/20 "2018-10-05T20:36:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **Qin Shi Huangdi** :
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> The Korean far right who thinks the current South Korean President is a communist dupe or spy are hopping mad at the perceived betrayal. Most of the Korean people, OTOH, are rather relieved that Trump’s going with President Moon’s peace process and thus successively reducing tensions rather than the “fire and fury” rhetoric seen last year. The politics of this issue are weird to say the least; many reflexively anti-Trump liberals in the United States are aping far-right Korean rhetoric in denouncing Trump as another Neville Chamberlain for meeting with Kim Jong-Un while the reflexively pro-Trump MAGA people are celebrating the peace process along with Korean progressives.

You think that Trump is working together with the President of South Korea? That’s trivially rebutted. Trump cares so little about working with South Korea that he didn’t even appoint an ambassador until three months ago.

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