# Trump firing Nielsen, head of homeland security
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [November 13, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459 "2018-11-13T15:51:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/1 "2018-11-13T15:51:41Z")
another day another cabinet member axed. Need a database to keep track of them all.
> **[Report: Trump Is Desperate to Get Rid of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/report-trump-to-fire-dhs-secretary-kirstjen-nielsen.html)**
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> Kansas’s Kris Kobach is among those who could replace her.
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### Author:  [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/2 "2018-11-13T16:07:09Z")
She hasn’t been fired yet, according to your link.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/3 "2018-11-13T16:09:59Z")
Did I say she was gone? I said it was going to happen as the link notes.
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/4 "2018-11-13T16:12:40Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Did I say she was gone? I said it was going to happen as the link notes.
Yes, but your OP says she has been “axed.”
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> another day another cabinet member axed. Need a database to keep track of them all.
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### Author:  [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/5 "2018-11-13T16:19:47Z")
I’m surprised by this. She did a great job of abusing brown skinned children. You’d think Trump would have loved that.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/6 "2018-11-13T16:27:09Z")
wow 2 people are really concerned with how I phrased the info? Guess you must have a lot of free time .
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/7 "2018-11-13T16:40:27Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> wow 2 people are really concerned with how I phrased the info? Guess you must have a lot of free time .
Yeah. She has been fired. She hasn’t been fired yet. What’s the difference?
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/8 "2018-11-13T16:41:16Z")
so now it’s up to 3 people 🙂
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/9 "2018-11-13T16:42:37Z")
Trump’s going to keep firing random White House personnel until he figures out who’s causing all the problems his administration is experiencing. Trump knows that somebody, who must be a central figure in the Trump administration, is the source of all these problems. But who?
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### Author:  [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/10 "2018-11-13T16:44:25Z")
Make it 4. We expect clear thinking around here, even if you’re raving about something.
That said, churn in offices after an election is not unusual in American politics, but with this most unpredictable American President, it’s hard to know what comes after.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/11 "2018-11-13T16:46:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump’s going to keep firing random White House personnel until he figures out who’s causing all the problems his administration is experiencing. Trump knows that somebody, who must be a central figure in the Trump administration, is the source of all these problems. But who?
Frank Stallone?
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### Author:  [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/12 "2018-11-13T16:46:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Yeah. She has been fired. She hasn’t been fired yet. What’s the difference?
Perhaps Herr Dr Schrödinger could tell us?
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/13 "2018-11-13T16:56:07Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Frank Stallone?
And Don Swayze
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### Author:  [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/14 "2018-11-13T17:05:26Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> so now it’s up to 3 people 🙂
That fact that they still are confused after the title, the links _and_ reading the clarifications in this very thread is rather depressing. That said, is this going to be an actual public firing, or another fake resignation to save face? At this point, I don’t think being fired by Trump would look bad on a resume.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/15 "2018-11-13T17:09:16Z")
now see I could point out an error in that last post but I won’t since I am nice guy. 🙂 and now it’s fixed 🙂
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### Author:  [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/16 "2018-11-13T17:15:48Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Trump’s going to keep firing random White House personnel until he figures out who’s causing all the problems his administration is experiencing. Trump knows that somebody, who must be a central figure in the Trump administration, is the source of all these problems. But who?
You mean fire himself? He will if Putin tells him to.
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### Author:  [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/17 "2018-11-13T17:52:42Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Need a database to keep track of them all.
One database to track them all,
One database to fire them,
One database to bring them all,
And in the darkness bind them.
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/18 "2018-11-13T18:07:12Z")
NBC news says Kelly may be leaving in the near future
[After clashes with first lady and others, Kelly may soon exit White House](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/after-clashes-first-lady-others-kelly-may-soon-exit-white-n935686)
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### Author:  [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/19 "2018-11-13T18:37:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That fact that they still are confused after the title, the links _and_ reading the clarifications in this very thread is rather depressing. That said, is this going to be an actual public firing, or another fake resignation to save face? At this point, I don’t think being fired by Trump would look bad on a resume.
There’s a difference between being confused and being annoyed at inaccuracy.
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### Author:  [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/20 "2018-11-13T19:01:07Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That fact that they still are confused after the title, the links _and_ reading the clarifications in this very thread is rather depressing. That said, is this going to be an actual public firing, or another fake resignation to save face? At this point, I don’t think being fired by Trump would look bad on a resume.
It’s not “confusing.” It’s inaccurate, in a non-trivial way. There have been many reports that _somethings going to happen_, and then it doesn’t happen. Now, it may be these reports are accurate and she will be gone in a matter of hours or days. Until then, don’t tell me she’s been fired if she hasn’t.
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