# Trump firing Nielsen, head of homeland security **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 13, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459 "2018-11-13T15:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/61 "2019-04-08T18:08:45Z")
Prices are being cut to the bone!! Everybody at DHS must go! Nobody held back. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/62 "2019-04-08T21:58:13Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Really, if it’s a right-wing think tank, I’ll view it as a success. She could end up getting some kind of fellowship at a prestigious university. Or, if that happens, “formerly prestigious university” might be more accurate. > [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](#): > > CNN is reporting that Nielsen’s firing was just the start of a [wholesale purge of pretty much the entire DHS leadership](https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/randolph-tex-alles-secret-service-director/index.html) at the direction of Stephen Miller. … These firings are bringing the sort of attention to Stephen Miller that have gotten a lot of Trump’s employees fired. Donald does NOT like to see his people getting headlines such as: > [@](#): > > The Stephen Miller Presidency > The more politically frustrated Trump becomes, the more he embraces his most extreme adviser. Brace yourself, America. > By ALEX SHEPHARD > April 8, 2019 > **[The Stephen Miller Presidency](https://newrepublic.com/article/153525/stephen-miller-presidency)** > > The more politically frustrated Trump becomes, the more he embraces his most extreme adviser. Brace yourself, America. Ask Steve Bannon, who also got a lot of ‘the real brains behind Trump’-style coverage…just before Trump gave him the boot. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/63 "2019-04-08T22:11:19Z")
Trump doesn’t like those sorts of headlines when the text of the article amounts to, “Trump is a baby and the adult is controlling things to make things better.” In Miller’s case, that’s not the message. The message is that Trump’s personal favorites are finally getting in position to do what they want, free of senate appointees. Of course, as usual, CNN is botching the message. It should just be, “Lookie the stupids! Bwahah!” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/64 "2019-04-08T22:20:32Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Trump doesn’t like those sorts of headlines when the text of the article amounts to, “Trump is a baby and the adult is controlling things to make things better.” > > In Miller’s case, that’s not the message. The message is that Trump’s personal favorites are finally getting in position to do what they want, free of senate appointees. I suppose, but “The Stephen Miller Presidency” is not going to thrill Trump. He may recognize it as an attempt to goad him, of course. (Or he may not.) Others, sensing the potential danger Miller may now be in, are offering information on Miller. This tweet has a screen cap of a page from the article linked: > [@](#): > > Julia Ioffe > ‏Verified account > @juliaioffe > When I profiled Stephen Miller back in 2016, a person who used to work with him asked for anonymity because “He’s going to find out that I spoke with you and I’m going to end up in a camp somewhere.” > > [2nd tweet:] > Here’s the profile, and the full quote. [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/stephen-miller-donald-trump-2016-policy-adviser-jeff-sessions-213992](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/stephen-miller-donald-trump-2016-policy-adviser-jeff-sessions-213992) … > 12:14 PM - 8 Apr 2019 > If Miller stays in the headlines for a while, and the volume of headlines is heavy enough, Trump won’t be happy—_even if_ the coverage IS slanted as ‘getting free rein to carry out policies’ rather than as ‘this is the person actually running the White House’ and such. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/65 "2019-04-08T22:25:46Z")
I hear Joe Goebbels is looking for work. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/66 "2019-04-08T23:44:04Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Trump’s hiring record going all the way back to the beginning of his campaign is utterly abysmal. He’s demonstrated terrible judgement over and over again. How do his supporters spin that fact? > . Fake news! Deep State! Hilary’s emails! Herp Derp! That’s about it. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/67 "2019-04-09T03:14:55Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Trump’s hiring record going all the way back to the beginning of his campaign is utterly abysmal. He’s demonstrated terrible judgement over and over again. How do his supporters spin that fact? They no longer have to. They’ve completely adopted “whatever makes the liberals mad” definition of “good”. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459/68 "2019-04-09T12:41:56Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Nielsen, on the other hand, met the same fate as her mentor, Kelly. Bent over backwards to appease the gruppenfuhrer only to realize that building concentration camps just wasn’t good enough to save her job. This. She was evil, but not evil enough for Trump and his own personal Martin Bormann equivalent, Stephen Miller. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-firing-nielsen-head-of-homeland-security/824459.md?page=3)