# Trump for congress **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 11, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061 "2021-06-11T17:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/81 "2021-06-15T17:00:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But in a situation like that you can’t afford to upset the balance. It only takes a couple thousand voters motivated by a single issue (like hating Trump) and that slight Democratic minority becomes a slight Democratic majority. That’s what I assumed would happened in the 2020 general election but it didn’t pan out (Georgia senate runoff excepted). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/82 "2021-06-15T17:10:14Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > That’s what I assumed would happened in the 2020 general election but it didn’t pan out (Georgia senate runoff excepted). Prior to that election, the Republicans had control of the Presidency and the Senate and the Democrats had control of the House. Following that election, the Democrats had control of the Presidency, the Senate, and the House. I don’t think the Republicans saw the 2020 election as a clear victory. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/83 "2021-06-15T17:21:00Z")
Yeah, but a nine-member majority in the house and 0+1 in the senate is not the crushing defeat I’d hoped for. If Trump had won the White House again my despair would have been insurmountable. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/84 "2021-06-15T17:26:10Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Or simpler yet, sic the Proud Boys and 3%ers on the Dems for a little direct action. You know they’d love to if they thought they could get away with it. It doesn’t take a 2/3 majority in order to remove secret service and other protections for the president and vice-president. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/85 "2021-06-15T18:38:25Z")
I don’t think Republicans care which candidate they stand for 2024 because they no longer care about winning elections in the traditional manner. Their real work is nearly done – to dominate a majority of state legislatures around the country and win a majority in the House via redistricting. Those are the people they will count on to put a GOP candidate in the White House regardless of the number of votes he/she actually got. Battleground states with red legislatures have already demonstrated their willingness to execute this plan and they have or are trying to rid themselves of state officials who stand in their way. Sorry to go all asahi here. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/86 "2021-06-15T19:40:41Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Yeah, but a nine-member majority in the house and 0+1 in the senate is not the crushing defeat I’d hoped for. If Trump had won the White House again my despair would have been insurmountable. I think that’s the problem some people are having. They were expecting a blow-out victory so just winning feels almost like a defeat. But professional politicians are going to be more objective. To them a narrow defeat is the same as a crushing defeat. They’re not eager to hook back up with the guy who led them to defeat. What the Republicans are worried about is Trump’s base. The Republicans can’t afford to lose these voters so they can’t break with Trump too openly. They’re trying to quietly ease Trump out of politics not reinstate him. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/87 "2021-06-15T21:20:03Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It doesn’t take a 2/3 majority in order to remove secret service and other protections for the president and vice-president. And Biden would sign that legislation why exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/88 "2021-06-15T23:51:22Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > He just has those eyelid display implants. They can be used as a teleprompter, he can watch movies and, with the addition of the optional forward facing camera, he can see where he’s going without having to open his eyes. The real question is, to what did they connect those implants? As far as I can tell, there’s just a load of cerebral fluid with a few stray lumps of neural tissue floating around in that noggin. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/89 "2021-06-16T00:01:48Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I don’t think Republicans care which candidate they stand for 2024 because they no longer care about winning elections in the traditional manner. Their real work is nearly done – to dominate a majority of state legislatures around the country and win a majority in the House via redistricting. Those are the people they will count on to put a GOP candidate in the White House regardless of the number of votes he/she actually got. Battleground states with red legislatures have already demonstrated their willingness to execute this plan and they have or are trying to rid themselves of state officials who stand in their way. > > Sorry to go all asahi here. Events have largely caught up with asahi’s warnings. Who, a year ago, would have believed that Trump’s fans would be bold enough to invade the Capitol, beat up defending police, and then spread their feces around the walls of the halls of Congress??? We’d all have ridiculed the idea. “It can’t happen here!” I think you’re right that Republican power brokers will be fine with Trump being the standard bearer for their brave new world of autocracy, because they all know he’s old and stupid. All his enablers, in any action taken to turn democracy into the farce it is in Russia (etc.), will be happily picturing themselves taking the throne as soon as it’s safe to overthrow President-for-Life Donald. In 2024 these stalwarts envision state legislatures overturning any election results that would put a Democrat into the White House, as well as anywhere else, in all likelihood (Senate, House, state legislatures, county commission offices, etc.). With one-party rule established, they can afford to let the idiot Trump have his fun for a while—and they’d be wise to do so given the ardor of his fans, morons though they may be. The number of people saying ‘the laws won’t allow it’ and ‘Biden won’t sign the legislation’ and ‘that can’t happen because it’s unconstitutional’ is the really surprising thing, here. Of course McConnell and the GOP governors will ignore the laws and do whatever assures perpetual one-party rule. Of _course_ they will. Why wouldn’t they? Seriously: _why wouldn’t they?_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/90 "2021-06-16T00:19:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Events have largely caught up with asahi’s warnings. I’m not taking a shot at asahi here. But he warned us of a lot of things. I recall warnings of Trump declaring himself dictator and cancelling the election. I have no problem believing Trump’s supporters would riot in the streets. But take over the country? That’s far beyond their level of competency. The same is true for any master plan involving Trump’s participation. He’s not smart enough for a master plan. He’s still the same lazy idiot he always was. If you were telling me that Mitch McConnell was planning on taking over the country, I might be worried. But Mitch McConnell taking over the country so he can make Donald Trump dictator? No, I don’t see that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/91 "2021-06-16T00:31:10Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > … I recall warnings of Trump declaring himself dictator and cancelling the election. > > I have no problem believing Trump’s supporters would riot in the streets. But take over the country? That’s far beyond their level of competency. > > The same is true for any master plan involving Trump’s participation. He’s not smart enough for a master plan. He’s still the same lazy idiot he always was. > > If you were telling me that Mitch McConnell was planning on taking over the country, I might be worried. But Mitch McConnell taking over the country so he can make Donald Trump dictator? No, I don’t see that happening. I agree that the nation has not yet been prepared for any of the scenarios you list. The nation has been prepared, however, for election results in 2022 to be overthrown in several red states, leading to more House seats than the GOP wins legitimately. From there other measures can move forward. The House can further undermine elections at the federal level, and getting such legislation passed by the Senate will be entirely workable. All it takes is a few Democratic Senators to be intimidated into voting the “correct” way. Get the population used to shenanigans such as the Arizona “audit” and things can be changed fairly quickly at the state level, leading to more power for the pro-autocracy party at the federal level. Lots of people want to go along to get along. And the courts have been moved to the right to a substantial degree during recent years. Many of those courts can be counted on to support the pro-autocracy direction in which we’re already going. There’s no need for Mitch McConnell to have a Grand Plan. There’s no need for Trump to plan intelligently. There’s no need for Capitol insurrectionists and their comrades to “take over.” Perpetual one-party rule requires only a relatively small number of changes, and a mass of citizens who roll their eyes—but do nothing else—at those changes. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061/92 "2021-06-16T00:45:33Z")
I agree the long term goals of the Republican party is to establish a one-party rule in this country. And it could happen; we had one-party rule in a large region of this country for decades. But the Republicans have intelligently realized that a major portion of this long term plan involves doing things quietly. They want to slowly and gradually take over the country without anyone noticing it’s happening and fighting back. When it comes to carrying out quiet crimes, Trump is the equivalent of a drunken rhino. He contributes nothing and calls attention to what you were trying to keep low-key. It’ll probably take the Republicans until 2030 just to get back to where they were in 2015. The last thing they want is to let Trump push them further back. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-for-congress/944061.md?page=4)