# "Trump Foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297 "2016-09-30T18:37:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/21 "2016-10-01T01:19:00Z")
I’m a qualified attorney, but I tell girls in bars I’m a poison-gas vendor to hostile nations. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/22 "2016-10-01T02:03:27Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Sonny actually did punch out people while Trump just says he’d like to. Well, it’s not like his tiny fists would be terribly effective. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/23 "2016-10-01T02:14:54Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I’m a qualified attorney, but I tell girls in bars I’m a poison-gas vendor to hostile nations. Talk about resume inflation… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/24 "2016-10-01T03:15:39Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > I’m a qualified attorney, but I tell girls in bars I’m a poison-gas vendor to hostile nations. He’s paraphrasing–actually just shouts, “I fart in your general direction!” ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/25 "2016-10-01T03:30:10Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Be pretty funny if the guy won only to be brought up on RICO charges brought on by the publicity of the campaign… Granted if Trump actually wins he could simply pardon himself (& any family members) of all federal charges they may have committed up that that date. He’d still be liable for any state charges. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/26 "2016-10-01T03:46:48Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > I remember seeing something about it (might have been here), but I can’t figure out where. Can we get a lawyer in here please? Are you thinking of my post where I pointed out he’s already being RICO’d over Trump University? > [@Somebody summarize the debate for me](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/187): > > [He’s already being RICO’d for the Trump University thing](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/2/1556038/-Judge-Curiel-Rules-Trump-Must-Face-Trial-for-Racketeering-in-Trump-University-Suit) > > E: I don’t know when the next trial date is, but I’d like to drive home that our country is in a position where a sitting president may, shortly after inauguration (meaning: for a scandal not discovered post-election), have to sit in and defend themselves in a RICO trial. The followup trial is on November 28, also mentioned in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/27 "2016-10-01T04:32:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, it’s not like his tiny fists would be terribly effective. Point taken. But in Trump’s mind, he could give a yuuuge beating. The best beating ever, believe me. A tremendous beating, the most successful beating in all of history. A beating like he wishes Ivanka gave his dick! Believe me! People are saying! I’m hearing this–but don’t believe any negative sources! They’re made up. Unless it comes from Trump camp. ---
**Author:** ![doubleminus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5daacb/32.png) [@doubleminus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doubleminus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/28 "2016-10-01T12:42:15Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > If only the typical Trump voter cared. This won’t change one person’s vote. n! n > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Well if they did jump through all the hoops required to make it legal, then it would have been audited and all of those dealings that you correctly call its main purpose would have been verboten. So the two necessarily go hand in hand. > > The nice thing about these scandals is that it makes any criticism of the Clinton Foundation by Trump massively hypocritical. > [@elucidator](#): > > It wasn’t already? Maybe upscale “massive” from “planetary” to " galactic". > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It certainly is hard to keep up with the flood of discoveries and revelations about Trump and his foundation. As a grant writer who worked for dozens of legitimate charitable organizations over the past 38 years, I find this latest revelation rather delicious. > > **[Trump Foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29/7dac6a68-8658-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html)** > > This is pretty yuuuuge. > > Sorry, if someone has already mentioned this. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/29 "2016-10-01T21:38:28Z")
n! n = (n-1)! n^2. Not sure what that has to do with Trump, though. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/30 "2016-10-03T17:21:13Z")
> Cease and Desist letter from NYAG shuts Trump Foundation down immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/31 "2016-10-03T17:26:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/782988522588213248) > > Cease and Desist letter from NYAG shuts Trump Foundation down immediately. [Full report from The Washington Post.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-ordered-to-stop-fundraising-by-ny-attorney-generals-office/2016/10/03/1d4d295a-8987-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/32 "2016-10-03T17:29:42Z")
I’m starting to think maybe he doesn’t hire the best lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/33 "2016-10-03T17:33:35Z")
It is the demand for multiple years of audited financial reports to be produced in 15 days that will sink him. No wonder he sounded distracted Saturday night! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/34 "2016-10-03T17:40:41Z")
From what I’ve read, it appears that he may be required to give the money back. I know its just a silly internet expression, but I may very well roll around on the floor, laughing my ass off. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/35 "2016-10-03T17:44:02Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Well, to be fair, it seems like Trump’s favorite charity is himself. Well, he did lose $916 million. I can only imagine the help that he needs. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/36 "2016-10-03T17:44:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It is the demand for multiple years of audited financial reports to be produced in 15 days that will sink him. > > No wonder he sounded distracted Saturday night! Well he should. At 1/2 hour/week for the only employees of the Foundation, those are going to be some hastily prepared reports. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/37 "2016-10-03T17:44:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Full report from The Washington Post.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-ordered-to-stop-fundraising-by-ny-attorney-generals-office/2016/10/03/1d4d295a-8987-11e6-bff0-d53f592f176e_story.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump Foundation has no paid employees, and its board consists of Trump, three of his children and one Trump Organization employee. The foundation looks like nothing more than a scheme to collect money, issue tax receipts, and then funnel the money back into Trump’s own pockets or to whatever he feels like. LOCK HIM UP! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/38 "2016-10-03T17:55:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > The foundation looks like nothing more than a scheme to collect money, issue tax receipts, and then funnel the money back into Trump’s own pockets or to whatever he feels like. If you have any idea where the money has actually gone please share it. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/39 "2016-10-03T18:00:29Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > If you have any idea where the money has actually gone please share it. We already know he’s used it to settle a case against him (see article linked above). We also know $10,000 of it went to pay for a portrait of Trump, which hangs in one of his golf resorts - sorry, which he is [storing at his golf course for the foundation](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/27/trump-is-actually-doing-his-foundation-a-favor-by-storing-its-portrait-his-golf-resort-wall-his-adviser-says/). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/40 "2016-10-03T18:00:37Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > If you have any idea where the money has actually gone please share it. [$258,000 of the Trump Foundation money went to settle Donald Trump’s lawsuits](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-used-258000-from-his-charity-to-settle-legal-problems/2016/09/20/adc88f9c-7d11-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html) Does this seem appropriate to you? Maybe ask the independent board of directors for the Trump Foundation; Mr. Trump, his kids and one of his employees. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297.md?page=3)