# "Trump Foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297 "2016-09-30T18:37:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/81 "2016-10-07T03:54:59Z")

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As someone who spent the last 40 years raising funds for legitimate non-profit organizations, anytime any person, corporation, or private foundation made a substantial donation to the organization ($1,000-ish or up), they required us to send them a copy of the letter from the IRS confirming that we were permitted to receive charitable donations. The person who makes such donations to organizations claiming to be charitable organizations needs to verify–I don’t think the IRS will accept “I didn’t know and didn’t bother to find out” as an excuse.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/82 "2016-10-07T11:31:18Z")

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Why is a Trump campaign spokesman saying “we” about the Trump Foundation? Aren’t the campaign and the foundation two separate entities? And if it turns out that they’re not, isn’t that yet another thing Trump could get in trouble over?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/83 "2016-10-07T22:32:24Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Why is a Trump campaign spokesman saying “we” about the Trump Foundation? Aren’t the campaign and the foundation two separate entities? And if it turns out that they’re not, isn’t that yet another thing Trump could get in trouble over?

I’m pretty sure everybody in the Trump Organization thinks of the campaign as a wholly-owned subsidiary. Nobody in that crew ever passed a corporate ethics course.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/84 "2016-10-07T22:41:22Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’m pretty sure everybody in the Trump Organization thinks of the campaign as a wholly-owned subsidiary. Nobody in that crew ever passed a corporate ethics course.

Aye; [remember what his son said about putting the company in a blind trust](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOZ_qm7Vq4)?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/85 "2016-10-07T22:54:20Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Aye; [remember what his son said about putting the company in a blind trust](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOZ_qm7Vq4)?

Dude clearly has no fucking idea whatsoever what a blind trust is.

“Trust me” he says. No. No we don’t, you little fucking weasel.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/86 "2016-10-07T23:18:12Z")

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The Junior is the same guy who, when asked what his Dad would be doing while VP Kasich took care of both foreign and domestic policy, replied “Making America great again.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/87 "2016-10-08T00:29:13Z")

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I think that this Junior is the same guy who said he always has a thousand rounds of ammunition in his car at all times.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/88 "2016-10-16T12:52:37Z")

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Tomorrow is the deadline! Will the Trump Foundation:

1. Launch a lawsuit against the NY AGs office?
2. Produce full, audited records?
3. Do nothing, being declared a fraudulent organization?
4. Comply with the barest minimum of shit?
5. Refund everybody?
6. Other?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/89 "2016-10-16T13:03:59Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Tomorrow is the deadline! Will the Trump Foundation:
> 
> 1. Launch a lawsuit against the NY AGs office?
> 2. Produce full, audited records?
> 3. Do nothing, being declared a fraudulent organization?
> 4. Comply with the barest minimum of shit?
> 5. Refund everybody?
> 6. Other?

other - ask for a continuance.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/90 "2016-10-16T16:34:19Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Tomorrow is the deadline! Will the Trump Foundation:
> 
> 1. Launch a lawsuit against the NY AGs office?
> 2. Produce full, audited records?
> 3. Do nothing, being declared a fraudulent organization?
> 4. Comply with the barest minimum of shit?
> 5. Refund everybody?
> 6. Other?

3 and claim he did 2. Then blame Hillary when nobody but his voter base believes him.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/91 "2016-10-16T17:32:52Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Tomorrow is the deadline! Will the Trump Foundation:
> 
> 1. Launch a lawsuit against the NY AGs office?
> 2. Produce full, audited records?
> 3. Do nothing, being declared a fraudulent organization?
> 4. Comply with the barest minimum of shit?
> 5. Refund everybody?
> 6. Other?

> [@simster](#):
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> other - ask for a continuance.

Is that a thing? If they are, are continuances routinely asked for and granted?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/92 "2016-10-17T13:13:28Z")

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According to David Farenthold, they can file for an extension.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/767297/93 "2016-10-17T19:44:34Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> According to David Farenthold, they can file for an extension.

And it’s [been granted](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-trump-foundation-20161017-story.html).

> [@](#):
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> early Monday afternoon, a spokesman for the New York attorney general said that Trump’s foundation had asked for, and been granted, extra time.
> 
> “They’ve requested more time, and we’ve agreed to provide the Trump Foundation with more time,” said Eric Soufer, a spokesman for Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, D. Soufer declined to say how much longer the attorney general’s office had agreed to wait.

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