# Trump going after NGO's he doesn't like **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 12, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168 "2024-11-12T21:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rippingtons\_fan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rippingtons_fan/32/11767_2.png) [@rippingtons\_fan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rippingtons_fan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/1 "2024-11-12T21:05:43Z")
I saw a report on MSNBC where they said Trump was going to go after certain Non-Government Organizations he dislikes, and declaring them as “terrorist organizations”. Which NGO’s is he likely to go after; NAACP, Black Lives Matter, Color of Change? This has got me really worried, that he can just label any NGO he doesn’t like as a “terrorist organization”! ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/2 "2024-11-12T21:47:07Z")
The US Department of State identifies Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTO) under authority granted by the _Immigration and Nationality Act_, and financiers, individual supporters, front corporations, and money laundering organizations under as Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGT) under Executive Order 13224. The US Department of Treasury can also designate SDGTs for the investigation of financial crimes. [[US Department of State Terrorism Designation FAQs](https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/07/194808.htm)] You may (or may not) be surprised to learn that there is no formal list of domestic terror organizations across the federal government even after events like the 1993 Oklahoma City bombing, and that different agencies from the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department of Treasury, Department of Homeland Security, Department of the Interior, Department of Energy, et cetera all maintain individual lists of terrorist, organized crime, and financial crime organizations. One of the unsung accomplishments of the Biden Administration was to launch a [“National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism”](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/06/15/fact-sheet-national-strategy-for-countering-domestic-terrorism/) to perform a comprehensive review of U.S. Government efforts to address domestic terrorism preparatory to coordinating law enforcement, counterintelligence, and counterterrorism efforts to identify, prevent, and punish terrorism. As the chief executive, once he is inaugurated as President, Trump can tell the head of the DOJ, DHS, or any other agency to designate some group as a “domestic terrorist organization” even if they pose no physical, financial, cyber, or other actual threat because while there are federal laws defining terrorism and terroristic acts ([18 USC Chapter 113B](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-113B)) the definition of “domestic terrorism” is sufficiently broad to include the Upright Citizens Brigade, the Universalist Unitarian Church, and probably the Girl Scouts. And if they refuse, he can fire them and find someone who will make that designation. It is one of the many unchecked powers the chief executive has, and that most are sensible enough to not employ without counsel and consideration, two qualities that Trump has only in a state of complete abeyance. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/3 "2024-11-12T22:01:32Z")
The bill in question is HR 9495 and it’s up for a vote today. [https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9495](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9495) ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/4 "2024-11-13T01:09:32Z")
So he can designate the Democratic party as a terrorist organization. What’s to stop him. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/5 "2024-11-13T01:20:06Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > What’s to stop him The Supreme Court? Sorry, I couldn’t manage to type that with a straight face. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/6 "2024-11-13T01:20:43Z")
It looks like it failed. US House voted 256-145 to pass _HR 9495_ —short of 2/3 required. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/7 "2024-11-13T01:22:39Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > probably the Girl Scouts. Thin Mints are deadly. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/8 "2024-11-13T02:34:07Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > and probably the Girl Scouts They are woke enough for him and his flacks/minions to hate them. > [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > So he can designate the Democratic party as a terrorist organization. What’s to stop him. He doesn’t even have to designate them as anything. He can just arrest them. > [@Lightnin](#): > > > [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > > > What’s to stop him > > The Supreme Court? The Supremes are now Trump’s backup singers. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/9 "2024-11-13T02:36:41Z")
> **[Jordan Uhl (@jordanuhl.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/jordanuhl.com/post/3las4nppzws2u)** > > Here are the Dems who voted yes on HR 9495: > > \[contains quote post or other embedded content\] My congresswoman, Marilyn Strickland, is on that list. ☹ So are Debbie Dingell, Jared Moskovitz, Senator-Elect Adam Schiff, and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, all of whom ought to know a lot better. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > short of 2/3 required. Why did this particular bill need a 2/3rds vote? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/10 "2024-11-13T04:03:10Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The Supremes are now Trump’s backup singers. I suspect they’ll come to regret that”: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/pi00f6oiMu4/maxresdefault.jpg "The Supremes - You Keep Me Hangin' On (Lyric Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi00f6oiMu4) Stranger ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/11 "2024-11-13T05:13:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > My congresswoman, Marilyn Strickland, is on that list. ☹ > > So are Debbie Dingell, Jared Moskovitz, Senator-Elect Adam Schiff, and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, all of whom ought to know a lot better. The bill also included postponement of tax deadlines for hostages and persons wrongfully detained abroad. [Cite.](https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9495/text) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-after-ngos-he-doesnt-like/1010168/12 "2024-11-13T05:17:42Z")
I was gonna say that someone, somewhere, is going to print out a list of all the organizations that are on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s watch list, and tell the Dumpster that everyone BUT them has to go on his watch list, and that’s especially including the SPLC.