# Trump going to win after all? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 30, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089 "2016-10-30T04:50:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/121 "2016-11-04T16:46:31Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I only know what people like you tell me. 😃 > > \ ***FBI Reopens Investigation Into Hillary Clinton’s Email Server** > by Sam Frizell October 28, 2016, 1:50 PM EDT > \* Well, if I can find one magazine cite…it MUST be true. Or [not](http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-e-mail-investigation/). > \*Clarifying: Comey doesn’t say the FBI is reopening the Clinton investigation per se, rather that it’s assessing newly found emails. \* > **[FBI Reportedly 'Reopening' Clinton E-Mail Investigation](https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-e-mail-investigation/)** > > According to Congressman Jason Chaffetz, the FBI is reopening an investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private e-mail server for state business. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/122 "2016-11-04T16:59:05Z")
In other words, it was Congressman Jason Chaffetz who framed the letter as saying that the FBI was “re-opening” the investigation. Comey never said that (even though some media stories took the lazy approach and copied and pasted a news release from Chaffetz) ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/123 "2016-11-04T17:01:57Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I only know what people like you tell me. 😃 What’s a person “like me”? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/124 "2016-11-04T17:31:30Z")
> [@beagledave](#): > > Well, if I can find one magazine cite…it MUST be true. > > Or [not](http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-e-mail-investigation/). > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/shaneharris/status/792053850106585088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) > \*Clarifying: Comey doesn’t say the FBI is reopening the Clinton investigation per se, rather that it’s assessing newly found emails. > \* > > [FBI Reportedly 'Reopening' Clinton E-Mail Investigation | Snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/28/fbi-reopening-clinton-e-mail-investigation/) So because a Daily Beast writer “clarifies” it to your liking, it disproves the congressman’s “spin”? That Snopes article doesn’t really pick a side, it actually describes it as “quibbling” over whether it should be called a re-opening. It’s perfectly reasonable to call it a re-opening. Comey’s letter opens with how he had testified to the fact that the FBI had completed it’s investigation. He then says he’s supplementing that testimony to inform them the FBI found some new emails to review. The people saying this as a supplemental investigation or insisting the case was never closed so this can’t be a re-opening are spinning a lot more than Chaffetz’s tweet was. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/125 "2016-11-04T17:33:00Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Ah, yes. The emails that were not actually to or from Hillary Clinton. cite? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/126 "2016-11-04T17:35:46Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So because a Daily Beast writer “clarifies” it to your liking, it disproves the congressman’s “spin”? That Snopes article doesn’t really pick a side, it actually describes it as “quibbling” over whether it should be called a re-opening. It’s perfectly reasonable to call it a re-opening. Comey’s letter opens with how he had testified to the fact that the FBI had completed it’s investigation. He then says he’s supplementing that testimony to inform them the FBI found some new emails to review. The people saying this as a supplemental investigation or insisting the case was never closed so this can’t be a re-opening are spinning a lot more than Chaffetz’s tweet was. Yup. I don’t see how the defense “nu-uh, it wasn’t ‘re-opened’ because she’s been under an on-going FBI investigation the whole time” really helps their position. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/127 "2016-11-04T17:56:47Z")
**doorhinge** : You have one candidate that has objectively lied much more often than the other according to any fact-checking organization who has bothered to fact-check the candidates’ many statements. That same candidate is in fact using “I lied” essentially as a defense against accusations of sexual assault by multiple women. (I.e., his argument is essentially, “I lied when I bragged about sexually assaulting women, so you should trust me now when I claim that I didn’t.”) So, essentially, you are choosing someone who lies big-time over someone who lies a lot less while claiming that you won’t support a liar. Frankly, perhaps you deserve to get a fascist like Trump for your president. Unfortunately, the rest of us don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/128 "2016-11-04T18:11:56Z")
why do people argue with Trump supporters? If your argument against HRC starts with “criminal” then you have lost your point and should rightly be ignored and taunted. Of the two candidates only 1 has a court date next week. It aint HRC. Now, if you think HRC is a bad leader because of her policies or history, fine. If you think the system needs to be torn down by a Trump type to “drain the swamp” fine too. But please, stop with the hysterics. its silly. To the OP: No, Trump isn’t going to win. HRC is ahead, has been ahead, and will stay ahead. But if Trump does win… so what? This country isn’t a president, its 300+ million people. We have had weak and stupid leaders before and managed. We will again. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/129 "2016-11-04T19:07:28Z")
> [@jshore](#): > > You have one candidate that has objectively lied much more often than the other according to any fact-checking organization who has bothered to fact-check the candidates’ many statements. [Trump gets caught in lie about his relationship with Putin New interview highlights Trump’s blatantly contradictory comments.](https://thinkprogress.org/trump-putin-extra-22babc3a8e19#.2kehi6fx5) > [@](#): > > During an interview that aired on this week’s edition of _Extra_, Donald Trump said he has no relationship with Vladimir Putin. But when _Extra_’s AJ Calloway pressed Trump about whether that means he’s recanting previous statements that he does indeed have a relationship with the Russian President, Trump said he’s “not recanting anything.” > > So if you take him at his word, Trump both does and does not have a relationship with Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/130 "2016-11-04T20:32:47Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > It’s my choice, not yours, to express my familiarity with ol’ Hillary by referring to her as ol’ Hillary. Nor did I imply that it was not your choice. I merely wondered why you opted to use it. I’ve seen you use it in different threads, and it’s almost as bad as “Regards, Shodan.” YM obviously varies, but I’m sure that I’m not alone in that sentiment. I’ve seen other people reference it being annoying, as well. No malice in this. Just curiosity. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/131 "2016-11-04T20:43:06Z")
Are you equally curious about posters who call Trump “Cheetoh Jesus” or Drumpf? Ol’ doorhinge is just making a little dig at her, what’s the mystery? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/132 "2016-11-04T23:05:02Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Are you equally curious about posters who call Trump “Cheetoh Jesus” or Drumpf? Ol’ doorhinge is just making a little dig at her, what’s the mystery? Equally curious? No. Because I’m aware that Drumpf is Trump’s real name, and there are scores of memes that play up his orange color, bad haircut and so on. I’ve never really seen anyone besides ol’ doorhinge use this particular word for Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/133 "2016-11-04T23:30:58Z")
I think ol’ Doorhinge is just using some generic disrespect. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089/134 "2016-11-05T00:01:38Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Are you equally curious about posters who call Trump “Cheetoh Jesus” or Drumpf? Ol’ doorhinge is just making a little dig at her, what’s the mystery? I would if Clinton were oranger than Trump. In this case Trump is older, so calling her “ol” doesn’t make any sense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-going-to-win-after-all/770089.md?page=6)