# Trump has been diagnosed with Chronic Venous Insufficiency
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [July 17, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991 "2025-07-17T18:36:49Z")
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### Author:  [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/1 "2025-07-17T18:36:49Z")
This explains some of the swelling and bruising that people have observed in recent times, and that the White House is admitting to this indicates to me that it’s a pretty bad case.
> **[Trump, 79, Had Emergency Heart Tests Because of Swollen Legs](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-79-had-emergency-heart-tests-because-of-swollen-legs/)**
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> Images of the president’s swollen ankles and bruised hand have raised questions.
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### Author:  [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/2 "2025-07-17T18:43:53Z")
He’s deficient in so very many ways.
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### Author:  [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/3 "2025-07-17T18:44:41Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> White House is admitting to this indicates to me that it’s a pretty bad case.
Be still my heart.
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### Author:  [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/4 "2025-07-17T18:45:09Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> the White House is admitting to this indicates to me that it’s a pretty bad case.
Not bad enough.
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### Author:  [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/5 "2025-07-17T18:49:49Z")
Hey, I never said I was sad about it!
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### Author:  [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/6 "2025-07-17T19:00:13Z")
Is it terminal? Please?
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### Author:  [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/7 "2025-07-17T19:02:44Z")
Our Wikipedia friends say this:
> CVI is not a benign disorder and, with its progression, can lead to morbidity. Venous ulcers are common and very difficult to treat. Chronic venous ulcers are painful and debilitating. Even with treatment, recurrences are common if venous hypertension persists. Nearly 60% develop phlebitis which often progresses to deep vein thrombosis in more than 50% of patients. The venous insufficiency can also lead to severe hemorrhage. Surgery for CVI remains unsatisfactory despite the availability of numerous procedures
I really enjoy the “painful and debilitating” part. Does this make me a smaller person. Maybe. Don’t care, given the damage done by this guy.
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### Author:  [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/8 "2025-07-17T19:03:49Z")
@Pork_Rind , I think you’re a little ray of sunshine! 😍
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/9 "2025-07-17T19:04:46Z")
ThelmaLou sneaks a case of champagne into the back of the room.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/10 "2025-07-17T19:07:52Z")
Somewhere, I have a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue Label.
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### Author:  [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/11 "2025-07-17T19:08:56Z")
Is it time to invoke the 25th yet?
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### Author:  [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/12 "2025-07-17T19:15:06Z")
We are all OK, not great, not good, just OK…
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuGC3reAkc)
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### Author:  [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/13 "2025-07-17T19:17:10Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> Is it time to invoke the 25th yet?
That notion is so 2018. As if anyone in that chain of authority is going to XXV slapdown ‘Glorious and Grand Führer Drumpf’.
Stranger
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### Author:  [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/14 "2025-07-17T19:20:29Z")
This is not possible, as Trump has a letter from some quack stating that he’s the healthiest man that said quack had ever examined in his entire career.
BTW, I initially read the thread title as “Chronic Venal Insufficiency”. Venality being defined as “a willingness to compromise one’s integrity or principles for personal gain, especially when entrusted with public duties or responsibilities” I was really doubtful that Trump had any shortage of it.
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/15 "2025-07-17T19:34:17Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Our Wikipedia friends say this:
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> > CVI is not a benign disorder and, with its progression, can lead to morbidity. Venous ulcers are common and very difficult to treat. Chronic venous ulcers are painful and debilitating. Even with treatment, recurrences are common if venous hypertension persists. Nearly 60% develop phlebitis which often progresses to deep vein thrombosis in more than 50% of patients. The venous insufficiency can also lead to severe hemorrhage. Surgery for CVI remains unsatisfactory despite the availability of numerous procedures
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> I really enjoy the “painful and debilitating” part. Does this make me a smaller person. Maybe. Don’t care, given the damage done by this guy.
The problem is this. What is more likely to happen is that any such such wounds that he may develop, along with the edema, are more likely to make him more irritable and easy to anger, with consequences such as his being even more likely to lash out at his perceived enemies. That’s a lot more likely than any kind of fatal complication.
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### Author:  [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/16 "2025-07-17T19:34:25Z")
**Moderating:**
~~Mod-nudge: Our OP @nearwildheaven has put this in P&E, with a non-poisoned analysis. I know emotions about Trump are almost always at the extreme, but we’ve had quite a few comments that are more suited to the Pit. Just a very gentle suggestion to mitigate those or take them to another forum. Again, just the most gentle note. If our OP would prefer to move it to the Pit, please let me know.~~
Updating - with the in-thread permission of the OP, I have just moved this to the Pit. As such, this note is no longer needed, but leaving it (with strikethrough) for the record.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/17 "2025-07-17T19:35:35Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> I really enjoy the “painful and debilitating” part.
I told my wife about the diagnosis, and I read this description to her to help understand what’s happening to Dear Leader, and she said, “I am so turned on right now.”
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### Author:  [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/18 "2025-07-17T19:35:41Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> that the White House is admitting to this indicates to me that it’s a pretty bad case.
I would interpret this to mean that it’s too obvious to deny. I’ve seen many pics on social media over the past few months showing Trump’s bloated ankles, asking “what’s going on here”, so they can’t continue to deny it.
Not necessarily life-threatening, but hey, could be the start of something good.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/19 "2025-07-17T19:36:55Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> many pics on social media over the past few months showing Trump’s bloated ankles, -
Now that’s a kink I didn’t know about. Nor did I want to.
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### Author:  [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/20 "2025-07-17T19:41:02Z")
> [@wolfpup](#):
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> ”. Venality being defined as “a willingness to compromise one’s integrity or principles for personal gain, especially when entrusted with public duties or responsibilities”
That’s the job description of the Cabinet.
Every one of them has savored the knowledge that they hold Trump by a thread. Cut it and Vance owes his presidency entirely to them. No pesky voters, or worse donors, just them. Congressional confirmation is likely.
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