# Trump has been diagnosed with Chronic Venous Insufficiency
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Tags:** trump
**Created:** [July 17, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991 "2025-07-17T18:36:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/81 "2025-07-18T12:58:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> One can never be sure about the truth from this White House. They said he weighs 224 pounds. If he weighs 224, I’m a dancing princess. I fervently hope the prognosis is much worse than reported.
Hell, _I_ weigh about 220 and look nothing like that fat piece of shit. I’d believe 260, minimum.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/82 "2025-07-18T13:00:38Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> The problem is this. What is more likely to happen is that any such such wounds that he may develop, along with the edema, are more likely to make him more irritable and easy to anger, with consequences such as his being even more likely to lash out at his perceived enemies. That’s a lot more likely than any kind of fatal complication.
This is my concern. Yes, he is already irritable and easy to anger. But I’m afraid this will exacerbate his flaws.
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### Author:  [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/83 "2025-07-18T13:03:08Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> > [@Cervaise](#):
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> > Counterpoint: he also has the charisma of a locker room laundry hamper.
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> Well, since Trump himself has the charisma of a spunk encrusted moldy sock which has lain under the bed for 2 months, I’m not sure that’s an improvement.
Trump is clearly an excellent marketer, and while many people find him repulsive, he objectively has a lot of charisma.
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### Author:  [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/84 "2025-07-18T13:04:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> One can never be sure about the truth from this White House. They said he weighs 224 pounds. If he weighs 224, I’m a dancing princess. I fervently hope the prognosis is much worse than reported.
You can’t trust anything out of the White House. He might very well have CVI, but I’m hoping it’s something more serious like congestive heart failure.
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### Author:  [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/85 "2025-07-18T13:18:22Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Not necessarily life-threatening, but hey, could be the start of something good.
I’ve got some personal experience with this-- not me, but a relative. Those unsatisfactory surgeries-- once they’ve all been tried and failed, there is one left-- amputation. That’s usually reserved for patients who are in chronic pain, can’t walk, or are experiencing secondary problems such as poor blood flow _to_ other body systems, threatening heart, kidney or liver damage-- or when someone doesn’t take care of the wounds that develop, and progresses to gangrene.
I doubt Trump is there yet, and most people don’t get there, but the PT to rehab from an amputation, even a below-the-knee one, is a full-time job.
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### Author:  [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/86 "2025-07-18T13:55:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> This is my concern. Yes, he is already irritable and easy to anger. But I’m afraid this will exacerbate his flaws.
Ditto. I’d much rather Trump be happy and comfortable if it made us (i.e. the country and the world) safer and better off.
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### Author:  [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/87 "2025-07-18T14:00:28Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Well, since Trump himself has the charisma of a spunk encrusted moldy sock which has lain under the bed for 2 months, I’m not sure that’s an improvement.
What **puzzlegal** said - you don’t get a cult-like following like Trump does without having charisma, or at least what his supporters think is charisma.
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### Author:  [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/88 "2025-07-18T14:27:10Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> Those unsatisfactory surgeries-- once they’ve all been tried and failed, there is one left-- amputation.
Of the head? 🪓
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### Author:  [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/89 "2025-07-18T14:29:55Z")
Shitheadtomy…
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### Author:  [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/90 "2025-07-18T15:02:18Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Ditto. I’d much rather Trump be happy and comfortable if it made us (i.e. the country and the world) safer and better off.
It won’t, though. This is appeasement thinking. When Trump’s in fine fettle he’s more devious and more effective.
Having him deteriorate into a twilight state, without handing the reins to a clever schemer like Vance, is the best-case scenario here. As a bonus we get to see him not only in physical pain due to his infimity, but him and his followers in psychological pain due to his diminishment.
This is an unvarnished good, no need to look the gift horse in the mouth. No point, either.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/91 "2025-07-18T15:14:56Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Well, since Trump himself has the charisma of a spunk encrusted moldy sock which has lain under the bed for 2 months, I’m not sure that’s an improvement.
Just because Trump’s charisma doesn’t work on me or thee does not mean he does not have it. He clearly does, otherwise he would not be able to inspire such loyalty and devotion among his followers.
> [@Odesio](#):
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> You can’t trust anything out of the White House. He might very well have CVI, but I’m hoping it’s something more serious like congestive heart failure.
There’s no reason he can’t have _both_…
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### Author:  [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/92 "2025-07-18T15:32:32Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> > [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> > White House is admitting to this indicates to me that it’s a pretty bad case.
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> Be still my heart.
If I had a heart, it’d be breaking.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/93 "2025-07-18T15:52:29Z")
> [@Spoons](#):
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> Popped into my head, and I thought I’d share. To the tune of Shocking Blue’s “Venus,” and later covered by Bananarama:
I also thought of “Venus” but my thought was to just take out the “o” and make it a “Venus insufficiency”. It implies a lack of a little something in the love department more elegantly due to minimalism than changing it all the way to “penis”.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/94 "2025-07-18T16:23:29Z")
I generally find it distastful to wish illness/death on another human being…
There are exceptions.
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### Author:  [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/95 "2025-07-18T16:30:42Z")
There is a least one obituary I will read with great pleasure.
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### Author:  [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/96 "2025-07-18T17:09:41Z")
There may be a connection. Varicose veins are a common presentation of CVI. [According to an NIH study published in 2022](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35841245/)
> **Results:** A total of 9,601 patients with varicose veins and 38,404 matched controls were enrolled in the study. The varicose veins group had higher incidence rates than the control group for Alzheimer’s disease (12.60 vs 6.24 per 10,000 person-years; Hazard ratio, 1.647 [95% confidence interval, 1.326- 2.045, p\<0.001]). Patients with complicated varicose veins had increased incidence of Alzheimer’s disease than uncomplicated cases (adjusted HR, 1.474; 95% CI, 1.034-2.101, P=0.032).
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> **Conclusion:** The present study demonstrated a positive association between the varicose veins and Alzheimer’s disease. Physicians should be alerted to cognitive function in patients with varicose veins, especially those with presence of inflammation and ulcerations.
The article doesn’t explain the connection, but damage to the blood vessels leading to the brain can cause dementia and strokes. My MD is purely imaginary, but that’s the conclusion I’ve drawn from my research.
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/97 "2025-07-18T18:03:19Z")
It is, at best, a correlation not a causation.
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### Author:  [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/98 "2025-07-18T18:16:31Z")
@nelliebly , you crack me up.
I found your cited study, veeery _ink-ter-estin’_
[Creepy finger waving].
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### Author:  [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/99 "2025-07-18T18:42:58Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> pitting edema
Is pitting edema always heart failure?
> No, pitting edema is not always caused by heart failure. While heart failure is a common cause, pitting edema can also result from [kidney failure](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=kidney+failure&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQAQ&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3), [liver disease](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=liver+disease&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQAg&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3), [venous insufficiency](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=venous+insufficiency&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQAw&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3), [deep vein thrombosis](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=deep+vein+thrombosis&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQBA&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3), [certain medications](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=certain+medications&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQBQ&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3), and even [pregnancy](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=c5a64250820e60ea&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS919US919&sxsrf=AE3TifM9nZmJecXluityD4NhGUE0TEgr_g%3A1752862859162&q=pregnancy&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUxr2Ag8eOAxVf58kDHWRuIjwQxccNegUI8gEQBg&mstk=AUtExfDXYxHnSX-hXPTkPdapS6KySV-5o54iX8uDWsT7exE5LJd7B82lnB5f-5LTHwfGDnhPaNYzB8pUnEOSoOZCe-mBP5Cwck67ZjY81YOSF-RH_KY86I6h6o7FmFVlbbAlUoZ5qGqNWrS6pGspiYCvqsGC45gKvbJvzlzUqWKNfTLiDb5m-R7fDPjkA2w6753g9axBIm0XbzUAwbE2SEJBneEPd89XQuLWGy3ZMw3EVkVWel2rP9FMg3ElLzhUiC-0em5O-m_s3Q4FAvS6zFL67NnctLv_1AwU3CvItxzc_xnsCw&csui=3). Pitting edema refers to the indentation that remains after pressure is applied to the swollen area, indicating fluid buildup in the tissues.
Look at all these other causes!
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### Author:  [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-been-diagnosed-with-chronic-venous-insufficiency/1020991/100 "2025-07-18T19:52:52Z")
So many conditions, so little time!
I guess it would be in really bad taste to create a poll… yeah, it would… even for here…
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