# Trump has COVID!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 2, 2020, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022 "2020-10-02T10:56:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/462 "2020-10-05T14:28:03Z")

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A reasonable person would think there’s no way any venue would ever let the Trump campaign anywhere near their premises anymore.

Sadly, there’s always one that will fold like cheap suit and put on a risky gathering just to make a few bucks.

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**Author:** ![Rob54](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rob54/32/4665_2.png) [@Rob54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rob54)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/463 "2020-10-05T14:29:24Z")

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Yes, a lot has been delivered, no less than put on by putin and lukashenko, but there is no turning back, because each of them has blood on their hands, and I’m sure that neither the majority of America nor the entire majority of Russia and Belarus could vote every time for these despots

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/464 "2020-10-05T14:31:59Z")

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Last Tuesday: Joe, your son is on drugs!

This morning: Drugs are fun!

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wr7D0OhHWGva4EP6ZhudK4DKtnl4gqd9AvbB430qwi9e_vIYvAaPx35VYSh6pYTsSAWsMkGin5gOJownMi5fFc4pOnsGC7xqF8B-ZlMYq1iN1BqEK73XSRYkvmzpdLvTX92abA8gOQ=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/8gBRPzjcz8qCrhjT7)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/465 "2020-10-05T14:37:19Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Gosh, the princely sum of $35/hr is certainly enough to make a wage worker into a titan of industry. I can see why it’s your go-to brag.

He’s a feeble minded old man whose family took pity on him and paid him to machine scrap metal to keep him busy.

> [@MrMrmrmr](#):
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> I was on the BOD, so I was part of all major decisions. Lucky is right, parents together who enforced the strong work ethic, healthy, male, American.

He was part of all major BOD decisions; Like how many sandwiches to order for lunch.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/466 "2020-10-05T14:39:35Z")

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Somewhere deep in the Pentagon they are changing the nuclear launch codes.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/467 "2020-10-05T14:53:53Z")

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From “1111” to “1234”, probably.

Nah, I’m not gonna believe anybody moves against the Dear Leader until I witness it happening. Rod Rosenstein et. al. have taught us that there are absolutely no adults in the room, standing outside the room, talking on the phone to anyone in the room, or curious about what’s going on inside the room.

If there are defectors, I don’t think we’ll see them coming until they act. If they act.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/468 "2020-10-05T15:14:00Z")

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> [@MrMrmrmr](#):
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> See above. Ten million in debt is not that much when your sales are two million a month.

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> My family owned a business where I did tool and die work. We sold the company for an eight figure price, that split between seven people. Sounds good but we also had over ten million in debt. I did Ok.

I appreciate numbers.

So you had a small manufacturing business, sales of $25 million a year, 7 owners (varying levels of ownership, assuming), and were supporting a debt load of $10 million. You (the royal you) sold the business for ‘Eight figures’ (concerning lack of specificity there), but did _not_ state whether the eight-figures included assumption of the debt… so either your family took the eight figures and paid it to the lender, or the business sales price was ‘eight figures’ + loan assumption.

Now, for those of you not in the know, small business loans tend to be short-term, like car loans. While there are a near-infinite number of ways this loan could be structured, typically a small business loan would be for 3-7 years and have a relatively high interest rate (5-15%, or the legal maximum (if there is one)). Just Google ‘I want a small business loan’. You’ll see.

Running the numbers, a $10,000,000, 7-year loan @ 6% (compounded monthly) requires a monthly payment of $146,085.

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ABLVV87PQZtM_qf-9PCKftvTgEkN-uXWxxo8aJLPFx4nfChQDUM1S9HVqet-zGtn5Ynyw6U_IPl9S4lGrzT4Ml5emz8s52_TNEwII9aXLEXWKMqEbCecfWo=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/grMzcLNpM9uFChzN6)

If your firm does $2m/mth in gross revenues, your profit margin after COGS and SG&A and Other Financing Activities to support this debt (which you called… what was it… ‘not that much’) must be 7.15%.

Unfortunately, I let my subscription to [Bizminer.com](http://Bizminer.com) lapse so I can’t look up the profit margin expectations of a tool&die business in the $25/million of sales range, but some quick googling tells me your industry averages about 13% margins… which your firm was likely not making, given that… reading between the lines using the numbers you provided… it struggled, needing debt to sustain it, until the owners, tired of throwing everything they have into it and seeing eight-figures of debt attached to their name, decided to sell out.

Still not too sure how any of this gives you any more expertise to discuss Trump’s finances than others on this Board, but I did enjoy the little intellectual problem you laid out here. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/469 "2020-10-05T15:18:52Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Just like the lab rat that ignores nutrients to keep pressing the cocaine lever.

Hey, leave Don Jr. out of this!

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/470 "2020-10-05T15:23:33Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> But Bob Dylan said that it’s unavoidable.

I think Zimmy meant it in the subjunctive sense. (If only English still had a full-fledged subjunctive case system!).

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/471 "2020-10-05T15:25:44Z")

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Current Secret Service members speaking up at what a reckless stunt the drive-and-wave in the #plaqueMobile was:

> **['Should never have happened -- we're not disposable': Current Secret Service...](https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/should-never-have-happened-were-not-disposable-current-secret-service-agents-rip-trumps-joyride-stunt/)**
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> A current member of the United States Secret Service ripped President Donald Trump on Monday for putting his fellow agents at risk by going on a joyride outside of Walter Reed Memorial Hospital on Sunday.In an interview with CNN, the unnamed Secret...

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/472 "2020-10-05T15:27:21Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Did you see Alec Baldwin as Trump and Jim Carrey as Biden on SNL on the weekend? Pretty accurate reflection of their debate.

Yes, which is why it wasn’t really funny. (Many shared this opinion, according to news sources). Too accurate!

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/473 "2020-10-05T15:35:40Z")

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press secretary tests positive. what number are we up to now? 28,29?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/474 "2020-10-05T15:36:38Z")

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> **[Pence's press secretary tests positive for coronavirus, Trump says | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/politics/vice-president-mike-pence-staff-member-coronavirus/index.html)**
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> President Donald Trump confirmed Friday that Vice President Mike Pence's press secretary, Katie Miller, tested positive for the coronavirus.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/475 "2020-10-05T15:37:49Z")

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> **[Trump Coronavirus Update: Press Secretary McEnany tests positive, raising...](https://www.fxstreet.com/news/trump-coronavirus-update-press-secretary-mcenany-tests-positive-raising-concerns-about-others-202010051533)**
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> White House Press Secretary Kelly McEnany has announced that she has tested positive, joining a growing list of people related to President Donald Tru

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/476 "2020-10-05T15:39:12Z")

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It’s like dominoes.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/477 "2020-10-05T15:39:36Z")

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Katie Miller tested positive back on May 9.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/478 "2020-10-05T15:40:51Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Secret Service members speaking up at what a reckless stunt the drive-and-wave

This could be Trumps Benghazi. Treating our heroes as disposable tools for his own personal use. Harris should pounce on this on Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/479 "2020-10-05T15:43:35Z")

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Aren’t dominoes white _and_ black ?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/480 "2020-10-05T15:45:03Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Aren’t dominoes white _and_ black ? -

[![](https://dmzn2b8hkpq8b.cloudfront.net/images/products/515x515/S287187.jpg) ](https://dmzn2b8hkpq8b.cloudfront.net/images/products/515x515/S287187.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/481 "2020-10-05T15:45:17Z")

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Republicans: Do stupid shit, win stupid prizes.

They are now spreading Covid to each other, because they are stupid.

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