# Trump has COVID! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 2, 2020, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022 "2020-10-02T10:56:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/562 "2020-10-06T00:45:05Z")
I saw it. He was gasping like a fish out of water. He should have left his mask on, it might have been left obvious. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/563 "2020-10-06T00:50:48Z")
This is interesting-- the Herman Cain timeline. From the Clusterfuck thread: > [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making Part Deux (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making-part-deux-part-1/911083/4432): > > This is slightly troubling. By this timeline, he could go deep south a week or so before election day. > > > [twitter.com](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313192280971452418) > > > > #### [Tim O’Brien (TimOBrien)](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313192280971452418) > > > > A humbling Herman Cain/coronavirus timeline: > > 6/24: Attends Trump rally, maskless > > 7/2: Tests positive for Covid-19 > > 7/10: Says he’s improving > > 7/15: Says his doctors seem happy > > 7/27: Says he’s really getting better > > 7/30: Dies > > > > [12:00 PM - 5 Oct 2020](https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1313192280971452418) > > > > 68K 29K ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/564 "2020-10-06T00:53:26Z")
The Clusterfuck is on steroids now! Okay, can somebody fill me in on a detail I might have missed? He took off his mask upon returning to the White House. (The headline I saw said he “ripped” it off.) For a photo op. But did he put it back on after the photo op? (I presume not, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/565 "2020-10-06T00:57:37Z")
I’m curious to know when Cain started feeling symptoms and how soon thereafter he went into the hospital. He almost certainly acquired COVID at the Tulsa rally or otherwise in the presence of MAGA supporters. Most articles I’ve seen indicate that symptoms begin typically 3-5 days after exposure. Symptoms can appear later but it’s less common. If reports I’ve seen are correct,Trump knew he had COVID but resisted going to the hospital. The docs basically laid out a grim scenario for him, which prompted his cooperation. That might have saved his life. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/566 "2020-10-06T00:58:07Z")
Good grief! In that short video when he walks up the stairs and takes off the mask, he is clearly gasping for breath (and trying not to show it). ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/567 "2020-10-06T01:12:13Z")
a very out of shape man going up two flights of stairs, would be out of breath, even with out covid. looks like his makeup is back. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/568 "2020-10-06T01:21:24Z")
> [@MrMrmrmr](#): > > Banh mi ok? I have canned pate, or applewood smoked chicken liver. Hell yes, I’ll have both. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/569 "2020-10-06T01:22:12Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > a very out of shape man going up two flights of stairs, would be out of breath, even with out covid. no we wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/570 "2020-10-06T01:25:31Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > a very out of shape man going up two flights of stairs, would be out of breath, even with out covid. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > no we wouldn’t. Ditto. I wouldn’t either and I’m only two years younger than His Doofusness. He was _gasping_ for air-- _gulping_ it in and trying to disguise it. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/571 "2020-10-06T01:28:19Z")
I’m obviously kidding, he was puffing like a sweaty asthmatic goldfish spilt out of his bowl. Just give fat, old, out-of-shape men our due is all I’m asking. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/572 "2020-10-06T01:31:48Z")
I sit corrected. I wonder what his blood ox was just after that. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/573 "2020-10-06T01:32:02Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Just give fat, old, out-of-shape men our due is all I’m asking. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if I’m out of breath from exertion, I’m taking deep breaths rather quickly, “huffing and puffing,” as it were. He, as you point out, was “puffing like a sweaty asthmatic goldfish spilt out of his bowl.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/574 "2020-10-06T01:32:44Z")
No, I mean he is not right. He’s gasping for air - I’ve had lung problems since birth and I’ve tried to conceal it at certain times (usually out of fear my mother or wife will tell me to see a doctor) and he reminds me of, well, me in that video. He’s keeping his mouth shut. Not speaking a word for fear of coughing. But breathing heavily through the nose and opening his mouth to let in extra oxygen. He’s clearly got some shit deep, deep in his lungs. He’s probably feeling a little light headed, too. He’s in public view for his performance, but he’s very uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/575 "2020-10-06T01:34:50Z")
The information I’m seeing varies a little from what was posted. He was diagnosed on June 29th and hospitalized on July 1st. I don’t think he ANNOUNCED any of this until July 2nd. > **[Herman Cain Hospitalized With Coronavirus (Published 2020)](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/02/us/politics/herman-cain-coronavirus.html)** > > The former presidential candidate attended the president’s indoor rally in Oklahoma last month. He was hospitalized on Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/576 "2020-10-06T01:38:29Z")
Oh yeah. I was just having a little fun. When I look at him in that video, I feel reflexively uncomfortable to see him struggling for breath. I want him to take a big honking gulp of wind, but he can’t or won’t. I look at him up there and see my grandfather spending 6 weeks dying of pneumonia. Both stubborn assholes who refused to admit what’s going on until it’s far too late. Then I go on youtube and watch the bass clarinet choir guy and everything’s OK. Fuck those dumbasses. Edit: [this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpql4uegZao). Honestly we should all probably stop watching the news and go watch him for a while. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/577 "2020-10-06T01:41:28Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > I sit corrected. I wonder what his blood ox was just after that. gored ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/578 "2020-10-06T01:42:21Z")
That’s exactly what it reminds me of: about a good 2-3 days before the doctor tells me I’ve got severe bronchitis or pneumonia. Haven’t done that in a while - last pneumonia scare about 20 years ago made me wise up a little. But yeah, that’s exactly what I remember when I was more of mule and didn’t want to be ‘nagged.’ “Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m fine, I’m fine” (as I suck air and walk into another room to cough into my arm to muzzle the sound, getting tired and light headed from coughing). ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/579 "2020-10-06T01:47:22Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > The Clusterfuck is on steroids now! Maybe we should ask for the Pit’s Clusterfuck thread to be renamed. I’d suggest: “The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck on Steroids.” ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/580 "2020-10-06T01:50:05Z")
I dunno, I just watched Trump’s performance returning to the White House, and while if I turn my computer sideways and squint just right I can maybe see he’s working hard to control the appearance of huffing and puffing, I think it takes some effort and a soupçon of wishful thinking to say he appeared very out of breath. However, does that man EVER smile? I imagine if it were Obama returning to the White House after being cleared for a health problem. I’m sure he’d wave at people and, while I’d expect him to maintain a serious air, he’d at least smile a little and look happy to be home and able to get to work. Trump, on the other hand, looks like he’s barely containing his anger at the entire universe. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022/581 "2020-10-06T01:53:48Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Trump, on the other hand, looks like he’s barely containing his anger at the entire universe. I’ve often thought about the life lesson embedded that. For a (supposedly) rich guy with the world at his fingertips, he’s just about the most miserably unhappy person I’ve ever seen. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-covid/922022.md?page=30)