# Trump has fired Comey.

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**Created:** [May 9, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225 "2017-05-09T21:53:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/1 "2017-05-09T21:53:45Z")

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MSNBC is reporting now.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/2 "2017-05-09T21:55:12Z")

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> **[F.B.I. Director James Comey Is Fired by Trump (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-fired-fbi.html)**
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> President Trump abruptly terminated Mr. Comey, who was leading an investigation into whether Mr. Trump’s advisers colluded with Russia to influence the election.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/3 "2017-05-09T21:55:46Z")

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I wasn’t around for Nixon, what happened next? .

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21825_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/4 "2017-05-09T22:04:03Z")

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Lessee - he 'fessed up about the email debacle. I guess since he couldn’t stick to the party line, he had to go.

Or is that cynical of me??

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/5 "2017-05-09T22:04:12Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> I wasn’t around for Nixon, what happened next? .

> **[Saturday Night Massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Massacre)**
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> The "Saturday Night Massacre" was a series of resignations over the dismissal of special prosecutor Archibald Cox that took place in the United States Department of Justice during the Watergate scandal in 1973. The events followed the refusal by Cox to drop a subpoena for the Nixon White House tapes at President Richard Nixon's request.
> During a single evening on Saturday, October 20, Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Archibald Cox; Richardson refused and resigned effect...

Not that this will necessarily play out in any similar way.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/6 "2017-05-09T22:12:07Z")

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Trump rewards loyalty! 😃

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/7 "2017-05-09T22:16:40Z")

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I heard somewhere that the president can easily fire the CIA director, but the FBI director – did I mishear?

Brian

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/8 "2017-05-09T22:16:40Z")

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I heard this on NPR on the drive home. Trump’s claiming he fired Comey for mishandling the Clinton email investigation. It apparently has _nothing_ to do with him snooping around Trump’s ties to Russia. Yeah right…

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/9 "2017-05-09T22:18:28Z")

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From my NY Times link:

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> “While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Mr. Trump said in a letter dated Tuesday to Mr. Comey.

Even though you’re not investigating me personally, I’m firing you anyway.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/10 "2017-05-09T22:24:13Z")

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I don’t think Jared Kushner can be given any more jobs in the government. They might have to find someone else.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/11 "2017-05-09T22:25:59Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> I don’t think Jared Kushner can be given any more jobs in the government. They might have to find someone else.

Tiffany’s not doing anything.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/12 "2017-05-09T22:31:49Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I heard somewhere that the president can easily fire the CIA director, but the FBI director – did I mishear?

The FBI director has a ten year term, but still serves at the pleasure of the president during that term. It’s a _maximum_ term, to keep one guy from getting ensconced in that position and turning the FBI into his personal secret police…again.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/13 "2017-05-09T22:36:37Z")

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WAIT, the deputy AG says they fired him for being too mean to Hillary? Does anybody at all believe that?

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**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/14 "2017-05-09T22:37:17Z")

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[Let’s re-write history.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/fbi-james-comey-fired-letter/)

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> Memos released by the White House show that Rod J. Rosenstein, the newly sworn-in deputy attorney general, recommended that **Mr. Comey be fired over how he disclosed the investigation into Mrs. Clinton.**
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> Mr. Comey broke with longstanding tradition and policies by discussing the case and chastising the Democratic presidential nominee’s “careless” handling of classified information. Then, in the campaign’s final days, Mr. Comey announced that the F.B.I. was reopening the case, a move that earned him widespread criticism.

Seriously? Trump reveled in constantly bring it up. He was positively gleeful about it.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/15 "2017-05-09T22:42:52Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> I don’t think Jared Kushner can be given any more jobs in the government. They might have to find someone else.

I give it an 80% chance that Trump tries to nominate Rudy Guiliani, 15% Chris Christie, and 5% other.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/16 "2017-05-09T22:45:03Z")

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So, is this the beginning of the end of the Trump administration, or the beginning of the total collapse of the U.S. government?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/17 "2017-05-09T22:50:18Z")

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I am sure Trump fired Comey for reasons that wholly benefit Trump, but, frankly, getting rid of James Comey isn’t at all bad thing for the FBI or the United States of America. He had become a distracting joke.

Now, what we need to see is who replaces him. THAT could be bad. Probably will be.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/18 "2017-05-09T22:58:31Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> WAIT, the deputy AG says they fired him for being too mean to Hillary? Does anybody at all believe that?

No-- they fired him for being too nice to Hillary – specifically over the statement he made on July 5th 2016 when he announced that the investigation into the e-mails was closed.

The letters sent to Comey as attachments from Sessions and his deputy lay out the case in excruciating detail.

> **[Trump’s letter firing FBI Director James Comey | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/fbi-james-comey-fired-letter/)**
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> President Donald Trump fired FBI Director James Comey on May 9, 2017.

I see Trump’ whiny little ego intertwined in this – really, you should really keep dismissal letters short and sweet and general. But the mad king is cranky and wants to behead someone.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/19 "2017-05-09T23:18:22Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I am sure Trump fired Comey for reasons that wholly benefit Trump, but, frankly, **getting rid of James Comey isn’t at all bad thing for the FBI or the United States of America**. He had become a distracting joke.
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> Now, what we need to see is who replaces him. THAT could be bad. Probably will be.

Not entirely clear of that. From The New York Times article cited by **davidm** above (bold added):

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> The firing puts Democrats in a difficult position. Many had hoped that Mrs. Clinton would fire Mr. Comey soon after taking office, and blamed him as costing her the election. **But under Mr. Trump, the outspoken and independent-minded Mr. Comey was seen as an important check on the new administration**.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-fired-comey/786225/20 "2017-05-09T23:25:01Z")

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“Thanks for your help in getting me elected, but you’re fired.” What an ungrateful prick.

I shed no tears for Comey. Obama should have fired him for the news conference in which he lambasted Hillary after deciding not to prosecute her. His meddling in the election is inexcusable, so good riddance.

But surely he isn’t being fired for throwing the election. He’s being fired because his investigation is beginning to hit too close to home. Republicans will stonewall the hiring of a special prosecutor, which is what should happen. Maybe they can bring Bork back to fire the special prosecutor. This all smells like coverup.

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