# Trump has no shame (or soul) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491 "2019-08-11T02:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/1 "2019-08-11T02:54:49Z")
Maybe this could go in one of the other Trump Pit threads, but this needs its own. [Here is the President of the United States of America](http://www.5forty.news/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/trumps-photo-op-with-the-orphaned-el-paso-baby-was-the-smallest-moment-of-his-presidency.jpg) grinning and giving a thumbs-up to his fans while he holds the two-month-old orphaned son of two Americans whose murders his bile fomented. There really is no bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/2 "2019-08-11T03:00:33Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > [Here is the President of the United States of America](http://www.5forty.news/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/trumps-photo-op-with-the-orphaned-el-paso-baby-was-the-smallest-moment-of-his-presidency.jpg) grinning and giving a thumbs-up to his fans while he holds the two-month-old orphaned son of two Americans whose murders his bile fomented. No it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/3 "2019-08-11T03:14:46Z")
OK. Melania is holding the kid. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/4 "2019-08-11T05:01:32Z")
Nothing we didn’t already know about him. I can’t wait to vote next year. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/5 "2019-08-11T05:17:33Z")
What am I seeing here that is incorrect and/or terrible? Perhaps your interpretation of it is slightly different. What exactly is he supposed to be doing in a situation like that? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/6 "2019-08-11T05:30:08Z")
I think I’ve heard at least two news show commentators call Trump a sociopath in the last couple days because of the photo. A Google search confirms David Brooks on the _PBS News Hour_ ([video clip on this page)](https://bluevirginia.us/2019/08/saturday-news-conservative-columnist-david-brooks-calls-trump-a-sociopath-for-el-paso-thumbs-up-photo-ice-raids-target-workers-but-few-firms-are-charged-cooch-says-no-pretty). I think the second was on _Saturday Night Politics_ that’s hosted by Donny Deutsch. Of course, the same search shows that people have been describing Trump as a sociopath for years and some of these are people who know him well like Donny Deutsch ([MSNBC’s Donny Deutsch: President Trump Is “A Sociopath”](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/12/01/msnbcs_donny_deutsch_president_trump_is_a_sociopath.html)) and Tony Schwartz, the writer of _The Art of the Deal_ ([Trump’s Ghostwriter: He’s a Sociopath](https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/18/trump-s-ghostwriter-he-s-a-sociopath)). ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/7 "2019-08-11T09:00:56Z")
To get ready for season 2 of _Mindhunter_ on **Netflix** this week I decided to revisit season 1. Episode 3 ends like this: [Mindhunter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z38XQ9BmA0U) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/8 "2019-08-11T09:04:17Z")
Some context to explain a bit, the child was there with his uncle (who is now caring for him since the child’s parents are dead). He himself is a Trump supporter and brought the child there specifically to show his support. Trump is pleased to find someone that close to the tragedy who is still a fan of his. That explains it, it doesn’t make it okay at all. Even a tiny bit. A “leader” with even a drop of integrity would recognize how somber such a situation is, and would express anything other than enthusiastic cheer for the photo op. I mean, what the ever-loving Hell, man?! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/9 "2019-08-11T09:11:30Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > What am I seeing here that is incorrect and/or terrible? Perhaps your interpretation of it is slightly different. > What exactly is he supposed to be doing in a situation like that? Look sad, or concerned, or serious, or in any way empathetic. Not cheerful or triumphant. Would you grin and give a thumbs up at a funeral? ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/10 "2019-08-11T09:21:00Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Look sad, or concerned, or serious, or in any way empathetic. Not cheerful or triumphant. Would you grin and give a thumbs up at a funeral? Only at Trump’s.😃 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/11 "2019-08-11T09:29:20Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > What am I seeing here that is incorrect and/or terrible? Perhaps your interpretation of it is slightly different. > What exactly is he supposed to be doing in a situation like that? Do you deliberately double down on your idiocy every time Trump doubles down on his? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/12 "2019-08-11T11:05:38Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Do you deliberately double down on your idiocy every time Trump doubles down on his? That’s a lot of doubling! 2^10,000 or something? Yuge! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/13 "2019-08-11T11:37:50Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > What am I seeing here that is incorrect and/or terrible? Perhaps your interpretation of it is slightly different. > What exactly is he supposed to be doing in a situation like that? How do you (YOU not Trump) make it through daily life without having a hint of a clue? Trump has people to help him with the day-to-day human bullshit. He still fails at it, but he has people to help with that. I assume you have some similar set up. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/14 "2019-08-11T11:51:38Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > only at trump’s.:d ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀▀▀█░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀░░░█░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀░░░░█░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀░░░░░█░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░█▀░░░░░░█░░░░░░░░░░ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄░░░▄█▀░░░░░░░▀▀▀▀▀▀█▄░░░ ░░░░░░██▄▄█▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ▄▄▄▄▄▄██░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████▄▄▄▄▄░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░█░░░ ████████░░░░░▀█▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/15 "2019-08-11T12:21:23Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > How do you (YOU not Trump) make it through daily life without having a hint of a clue? Just for you, anomalous1, [a gift to help you out here](http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm109/bigcluefan/Clue%20Cartoon/Study.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/16 "2019-08-11T12:29:26Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Only at Trump’s.😃 Trump’s funeral is literally the only funeral I can think of where it would not only be worth while to change your ring tone to McDonald’s “Ba-Da-Ba-Ba-Ba, I’m Lovin’ It”, but worth while to arrange to have someone call you repeatedly during the service… ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/17 "2019-08-11T12:41:24Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Trump’s funeral is literally the only funeral I can think of where it would not only be worth while to change your ring tone to McDonald’s “Ba-Da-Ba-Ba-Ba, I’m Lovin’ It”, but worth while to arrange to have someone > call you repeatedly during the service… You had me at “Trump’s funeral” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/18 "2019-08-11T12:41:57Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Trump’s funeral is literally the only funeral I can think of where it would not only be worth while to change your ring tone to McDonald’s “Ba-Da-Ba-Ba-Ba, I’m Lovin’ It”, but worth while to arrange to have someone > call you repeatedly during the service… I was thinking more of having someone call repeatedly and have the ringtone the sound of a toilet flushing. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/19 "2019-08-11T13:00:05Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > You had me at “Trump’s funeral” 😃 Thank you, but I can’t take credit for it. I had a few windows open at once and one played a commercial clip and another showed a trailer with Anne Hathaway smiling. All I did was ask myself, “What would make Anne Hathaway smile?” So really, She deserves all the credit… ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/20 "2019-08-11T13:21:12Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Trump’s funeral is literally the only funeral I can think of where it would not only be worth while to change your ring tone to McDonald’s “Ba-Da-Ba-Ba-Ba, I’m Lovin’ It”, but worth while to arrange to have someone > call you repeatedly during the service… When Trump’s funeral does occur, I can guarantee it won’t be like any other President’s or like someone well-respected like John McCain’s. I imagine that only his family, some close associates, and the hardcore of his base would be there (maybe outside whatever televangelist church it’s being held at, paying their “respect”), and depending on how bad his presidency ends up, even a lot of them may be gone by them–he certainly hasn’t been doing farmers any favors with his trade wars. Foreign dignitaries? Well, maybe from Russia, N. Korea, Saudia Arabia, and a few other authoritarians states. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491.md?page=2)