# Trump has no shame (or soul)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491 "2019-08-11T02:54:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/41 "2019-08-11T19:49:55Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> I understand what you’re saying, but he’ll be dead so he won’t get any enjoyment out of it. Since he hasn’t done _anything_ to make the world better while he is alive, we should use his death to improve things. Maybe instead of using the pissing-on-his-grave fee to raise funds for the national debt, we could use the money to pay for universal health care. Also, the Washington Memorial is a majestic obelisk, the Lincoln Memorial is an inspiring statue, the Trump Memorial would be a public urinal. It’s a win-win.

I was going to suggest letting some endangered animals feed on his carcass or planting him under some trees as fertilizer, but that might be poisonous for the animals and/or trees, so your idea is probably better.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/42 "2019-08-11T21:56:16Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> …the Trump Memorial would be a public urinal.

It would be the most visited memorial in US history.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/43 "2019-08-11T22:13:58Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> …the Trump Memorial would be a public urinal. It’s a win-win.

And it should be 1/4 size of a real one.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/44 "2019-08-11T22:54:39Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> And it should be 1/4 size of a real one.

And of course it would have [to be mushroom-friendly](https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e1/e0/c8/e1e0c8ade5df2eff2df4b8df0683f3fc--mario-nintendo-nintendo-room.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/45 "2019-08-11T23:58:08Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> the Trump Memorial would be a public urinal.

Think of the poor janitors who would have to mop the floor. Because we have to assume the urinal would reflect its namesake and not do the job it was supposed to.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/46 "2019-08-12T00:30:48Z")

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You’d need one in the form of Moscow Mitch’s mouth to be right next to it.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/47 "2019-08-12T01:59:37Z")

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The public urinal idea makes a lot of sense.

However, I’d like to see Trump’s memorial be…that his name is never mentioned again.

An inspirational example: the climax to the movie _Pan’s Labyrinth_, in which a tyrant has been cornered by the people he preyed on and exploited. He knows he is about to die. So, standing proudly in the circle of angry resistance-members, he demands that his newborn son be informed of his father’s achievements and life:

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> Capitán Vidal: Tell my son what time his father died. Tell him that I-  
> Mercedes: [interrupting] No. He won’t even know your name.

[Pan's Labyrinth - Wikiquote](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pan%27s_Labyrinth)

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/48 "2019-08-12T02:10:01Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> When Trump’s funeral does occur, I can guarantee it won’t be like any other President’s or like someone well-respected like John McCain’s.
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> I imagine that only his family, some close associates, and the hardcore of his base would be there (maybe outside whatever televangelist church it’s being held at, paying  
> their “respect”), and depending on how bad his presidency ends up, even a lot of them may be gone by them–he certainly hasn’t been doing farmers any favors with his trade wars.
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> Foreign dignitaries? Well, maybe from Russia, N. Korea, Saudia Arabia, and a few other authoritarians states.

At least he won’t be around to say, “It was the biggest, greatest funeral ever.”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/49 "2019-08-12T02:17:33Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> At least he won’t be around to say, “It was the biggest, greatest funeral ever.”

Junior will take care of that for him.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/50 "2019-08-12T02:26:02Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> What have you got against all the poor fish? They don’t have enough trouble with warming waters and massive pollution, you should add that bit of toxic waste?

Jay Leno “introduced” a new product not long after Bin Laden was killed.

Alka-Seltzer + Ore-Ida Potatoes + Tetramin Fish Food = Alk-Ida Fish Food, with a picture of bin Laden on the box.

😃

Speaking of bin Laden, not long after 9/11, an e-mail meme circulated that was a picture of him Photoshopped onto a naked muscleman in profile, and he’s being raped by the WTC tower with the big antenna on it. I haven’t been able to find it since, but yeah, it was DEFINITELY black humor. I also saw a poster of this in the background on some MTV show that actually happened to be about music, and the skyscraper was fuzzied out.

The Trump presidential “library” will be interesting, too, and not in a good way. I predict that there won’t be one, because nobody will want it near them.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/51 "2019-08-12T02:43:01Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> The Trump presidential “library” will be interesting, too, and not in a good way. I predict that there won’t be one, because nobody will want it near them.

It’ll be just one room, the bathroom. The clock on the wall will be set to Moscow Standard Time. There will be an American flag with the stripes colored like the Russian flag. There will be a lap desk with two pieces of blank A4 paper in an “executive order” award-type folder (what are those darn things called, anyway?). There won’t be any toilet paper rolls there. Right next to the commode, there will be stacks of copies of the United States constitution, with some copies wadded up in a waste basket right next to the commode. Of course, there will be pictures of Trump at his most [del]notorious[/del] benevolent moments: chucking paper towels, giving a thumbs up over a newly-orphaned baby. There might even be one of those “fisherman’s rulers” labeled “dick measurer”. I don’t even want to know how the picture of his daughter will be labeled.

And, no doubt, there will be a long-form Kenyan birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama II labeled “on loan from the Obama (Fake) Presidential Library”.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/52 "2019-08-12T03:23:55Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> It would be the most visited memorial in US history.

It would be a tribute to his EPA clean water initiative.  
(Why did I have to read this after the very first time I’ve ever seen Aquaman? Thanks, HBO. Because there’s that one scene in Italy… and I Swear that actor looked like Eric Trump… )

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/53 "2019-08-12T03:46:20Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> However, I’d like to see Trump’s memorial be…that his name is never mentioned again.

My second Stalin reference in this thread.

I’m sure most people are aware that when Stalin had some prominent official purged, there followed a process of going through official photos and erasing the person’s image.

The erasures were often somewhat clumsy and I had always assumed this was just a sign that the technology of altering photos was still pretty primitive back then. But I recently heard a theory; that the censors intentionally made the erasures noticeable. They wanted people to know that it was happening. It was intended to send a message that people were being erased from the public record. The person’s identity would be gone but people would still be able to see the evidence that somebody who had existed was now removed from history.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/54 "2019-08-12T05:03:24Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> …  
> The Trump presidential “library” will be interesting, too, and not in a good way. I predict that there won’t be one, because nobody will want it near them.

My prediction:

> [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/33343):
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> A while back, I mentioned my idea for the library. Cheap and simple, and demonstrates all the respect that should be shown to this former president’s _oeuvre_. All of thump’s tweets, documents, blahblahblah, will go on a flash drive that will be put in an empty Altoids tin, sealed with duck tape, and locked in the janitor’s closet at Trump Tower.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/55 "2019-08-12T05:07:10Z")

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There’s probably 200 or so people who wouldn’t want any info to appear, no matter how mundane nor damning. So if true, I think it’d be easy to say “Say you had diarrheal problems and had to leave your post for 5 hours for $20 million. “

But I sincerely doubt all of that. A sleaze who got caught and didn’t want to live in prison. For what I posted above, he’d have to be convinced it was for his best interest. So around it goes, but I doubt it’s a big conspiracy like the Dotard thinks.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/56 "2019-08-12T12:08:53Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> The Trump presidential “library” will be interesting, too, and not in a good way. I predict that there won’t be one, because nobody will want it near them.

What could possibly be in it? The fucker doesn’t read and probably can’t read. His briefings have to be condensed to pictures and captions and he generally skips those in favor of watching Fox. I suppose you could have a Hall of Tweets but that would be about it.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/57 "2019-08-12T12:19:23Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> The Trump presidential “library” will be interesting, too, and not in a good way. I predict that there won’t be one, because nobody will want it near them.

Falwell Jr will take it for Liberty U, if no where else.

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/58 "2019-08-12T13:12:37Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What could possibly be in it? The fucker doesn’t read and probably can’t read. His briefings have to be condensed to pictures and captions and he generally skips those in favor of watching Fox. I suppose you could have a Hall of Tweets but that would be about it.

Of course he’s literate you fool, he’s the President of the United States!!! Here’s an article about a book he kept by his bed every night:

> **[Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by...](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8)**
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> "If, I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

Now apologize for everything bad you said about him.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/59 "2019-08-12T13:22:05Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Falwell Jr will take it for Liberty U, if no where else.

I suspect you’re right about Liberty taking the Trump library, but what if we look at it from a different angle. What if, instead of library memorializing a president, we look at it as a memorial of an atrocity like Auschwitz or Dachau - a “never again” reminder. We could fence in Mar-a-Lago and put a sign over the entrance gate saying “Make America Great Again.” Visitors could see the actual rooms where Trump leaked information to the Chinese or the rooms favored by Russian or Saudi agents. There could be informational displays like Trump’s phone which was hacked by 437 different nations and some of the actual pictograms given to Trump as national security briefings.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/60 "2019-08-12T14:25:20Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> What could possibly be in it? The fucker doesn’t read and probably can’t read. His briefings have to be condensed to pictures and captions and he generally skips those in favor of watching Fox. I suppose you could have a Hall of Tweets but that would be about it.

It will have 10,000 copies of _The Art of the Deal_ and bookshelves lined with binders full of all of his positive printouts from Fox, Breitbart, and InfoWars raving about how great Trump is. The gift store will sell flash drives containing all his Tweets and MAGA merchandise.

A treasure trove for future historians trying to understand the end of America’s world leadership and its domestic decline.

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