# Trump has no shame (or soul)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 11, 2019, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491 "2019-08-11T02:54:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![SingleMalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/singlemalt/32/3961_2.png) [@SingleMalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleMalt)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/101 "2019-08-14T14:56:16Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Possibly Mueller’s slip of the tongue during his most recent testimony could become popular:
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> NORTH: One heart.  
> EAST: Pass.  
> SOUTH: Pass.  
> WEST: Two no trimp.
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> It could work!

How about:

NORTH: One heart.  
EAST: Pass.  
SOUTH: Pass.  
WEST: Two no cheeto-faced-shit-gibbons.

Ok, it needs work.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/102 "2019-08-14T20:35:25Z")

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I hate to root for an economic downturn, but this morning’s news about a predicted coming recession gives me a bit of cheer. If Trump can not run on the economy, he is almost surely toast. If the economic storm clouds do gather, I think we will see more Republicans walking away from the huge stink fart that is Trump. That said, I’d much rather the economy stay healthy and that American voters push this turd out for his own lack of merit.

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/103 "2019-08-14T20:43:58Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> I said a while back that we could eliminate the national debt by charging people to piss on Trump’s grave. I figure we do it on a sliding scale. Someone like Hillary would probably pay a fortune for the privilege, but we also want to allow access for the workers who went bankrupt when Trump stiffed them.

How much for a dump on Trump?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/104 "2019-08-14T20:51:06Z")

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> How much for a dump on Trump?

[Shut up and take my money!](https://images.app.goo.gl/ciUuvDyq2rQd1kEJ7)

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**Author:** ![TimfromNapa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@TimfromNapa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimfromNapa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/105 "2019-08-14T20:53:56Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> It will have 10,000 copies of _The Art of the Deal_ and bookshelves lined with binders full of all of his positive printouts from Fox, Breitbart, and InfoWars raving about how great Trump is. The gift store will sell flash drives containing all his Tweets and MAGA merchandise.
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> A treasure trove for future historians trying to understand the end of America’s world leadership and its domestic decline.

Add in thumbs up bobble heads for sale and you got yerself one great lieberry. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/106 "2019-08-14T23:21:55Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> How about:
> 
> NORTH: One heart.  
> EAST: Pass.  
> SOUTH: Pass.  
> WEST: Two no cheeto-faced-shit-gibbons.
> 
> Ok, it needs work.

It’s promising, though!

> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> I hate to root for an economic downturn, but this morning’s news about a predicted coming recession gives me a bit of cheer. If Trump can not run on the economy, he is almost surely toast. If the economic storm clouds do gather, I think we will see more Republicans walking away from the huge stink fart that is Trump. That said, I’d much rather the economy stay healthy and that American voters push this turd out for his own lack of merit.

The signs for recession are appearing daily.

If it looks inevitable, I’d expect action on the 25th Amendment front. The GOP reasoning will be: Pence may not be all that popular, but there will be a certain feeling of sympathy for him and many who don’t pay all that much attention to politics will be thinking ‘give the guy a fair chance, vote him back in, he’s only been President 6 months’ (or whatever it is, given the difficulties in prying Trump out of the Oval Office).

So that could go badly for democracy, too.

(Still, even Pence would be better than Trump, due to his relative paucity of rabid fans.)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/107 "2019-08-14T23:43:30Z")

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Does Pence have ANY fans? Even the people of Indiana seem to hate him.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/108 "2019-08-15T00:00:52Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Does Pence have ANY fans? Even the people of Indiana seem to hate him.

Pretty much any raging evangelical. John Hagee, for example. Pat Robertson. Robert Tilton. Falwell. Graham.

Most of 'em are scam artists, too, so they’re comfortable with him.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/109 "2019-08-15T00:10:21Z")

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> I hate to root for an economic downturn, but this morning’s news about a predicted coming recession gives me a bit of cheer. If Trump can not run on the economy, he is almost surely toast.

Maybe, but an article I read about this week’s “[yield curve inversion](https://www.google.com/search?q=yield+curve+inversion&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIpvyzyoPkAhUDX80KHee5D9UQ_AUIESgB&biw=2048&bih=1001)” claimed the recession follows in 18 to 24 months. Just in time for the Democratic POTUS to be left to clean up another Republican administration economic turd.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/110 "2019-08-15T00:12:19Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Does Pence have ANY fans? Even the people of Indiana seem to hate him.

> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Pretty much any raging evangelical. John Hagee, for example. Pat Robertson. Robert Tilton. Falwell. Graham.  
> Most of 'em are scam artists, too, so they’re comfortable with him.

Just guessing, but I bet there are a lot of closeted men who find Pence to be admirable, if not inspirational.

Still, that doesn’t amount to enough people to give Pence anywhere near the power Donald has had to ravage the nation.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/111 "2019-08-15T00:16:14Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Just guessing, but I bet there are a lot of closeted men who find Pence to be admirable, if not inspirational.
> 
> Still, that doesn’t amount to enough people to give Pence anywhere near the power Donald has had to ravage the nation.

The evangelists who love Pence have a \*lot \*of fans.And even the people who aren’t their fans are often heavily influenced either by the preachers or the fans of the preachers. And a lot of those people are in public office. Witness the laws coming out of the state legislations in states like Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Georgia, etc., most of which have been discussed in this forum in terms of horror and disbelief.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/112 "2019-08-15T00:28:42Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> The evangelists who love Pence have a \*lot \*of fans.And even the people who aren’t their fans are often heavily influenced either by the preachers or the fans of the preachers. And a lot of those people are in public office. Witness the laws coming out of the state legislations in states like Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Georgia, etc., most of which have been discussed in this forum in terms of horror and disbelief.

You’re right about all that. But that’s still not Trump-rally-level devotion.

If Pence actually were at that level of popularity, we’d be seeing evidence of it—even if Pence is savvy enough to refrain from actually attempting to hold his own rallies, knowing how Donald would react.

We’d be seeing more coverage of Pence in the media, for one thing. The media is all about ratings. If Pence coverage would give them good ratings, they’d be offering Pence coverage. They wouldn’t care that Donald would be grumpy about it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-no-shame-or-soul/838491/113 "2019-08-15T00:40:19Z")

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> [@SingleMalt](#):
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> How about:
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> NORTH: One heart.  
> EAST: Pass.  
> SOUTH: Pass.  
> WEST: Two no cheeto-faced-shit-gibbons.
> 
> Ok, it needs work.

“Two nocfashiggi”, which can be shortened to “Two nocfas” or even “Two shiggis”. Given whom we’re memorializing here, I prefer “shiggis”.

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