# Trump has Suggested Americans Google a Sex Tape

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281 "2016-09-30T13:54:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/21 "2016-09-30T16:09:14Z")

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> [@AndrewL](#):
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> Donald doesn’t just shoot himself in the foot. He shoots himself in the foot, then shoots himself in the foot again to prove he meant it, then shoots the other foot just in case it gets any ideas.

I think his marksmanship is wonderful.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/22 "2016-09-30T16:16:13Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I’d genuinely like to hear someone defend this…

> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Just watch Fox News.

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Or MSNBC, which is where I saw it.

The question was, who will _defend Trump’s attack._ Did MSNBC defend it? Do you have a cite for anyone defending Trump’s actions? Defending Trump would look something like this:

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> All’s fair in love and [del]war[/del] politics.
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> If it works for him, it’s brilliant. If not, not.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/23 "2016-09-30T16:19:44Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> [Trump's Latest Repulsive Attack On Alicia Machado: 'Check Out Sex Tape' | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-alicia-machado_us_57ee3401e4b082aad9baa8f6)
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> It seems that in an effort to support his attacks on Alicia Machado, and show Hillary’s poor judgement, Trump has told people to go find her sex tape.
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> Is there anyone who can really support this? I’m seriously asking- in what world does anyone think this is OK? I’d genuinely like to hear someone defend this…

I’m not sure what argument you’re advancing, so I have no idea if I wish to defend against it.

Probably not.

But just to help, here are some guesses I have about your argument:

[ul]  
[li]It’s wrong to call this a sex tape[/li][li]It’s wrong to use the existence of a sex tape against an opponent[/li][li]It’s wrong to consider Machado fair game as an opponent[/li][li]It’s wrong for Trump to try to be President[/li][/ul]

Any of those close?

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/24 "2016-09-30T16:21:15Z")

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Am I missing the link between “She has a sex tape” and “Therefore, calling her Miss Piggy is perfectly fine”?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/25 "2016-09-30T16:23:12Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’m not sure what argument you’re advancing, so I have no idea if I wish to defend against it.
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> Probably not.
> 
> But just to help, here are some guesses I have about your argument:
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> [ul]  
> [li]It’s wrong to call this a sex tape[/li][li]It’s wrong to use the existence of a sex tape against an opponent[/li][li]It’s wrong to consider Machado fair game as an opponent[/li][li]It’s wrong for Trump to try to be President[/li][/ul]
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> Any of those close?

1 and 4 see accurate

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/26 "2016-09-30T16:25:21Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Am I missing the link between “She has a sex tape” and “Therefore, calling her Miss Piggy is perfectly fine”?

Perhaps he has a Miss Piggy fetish?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/27 "2016-09-30T16:30:35Z")

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One wonders how low Trump can stoop or how long before his supporters say “enough”. I’m struggling to see how one could support him and be a good person.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/28 "2016-09-30T16:31:37Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> 1 and 4 see accurate

Then I do have a defense.

There’s no rule that a “sex tape,” has naked flesh. This is a tape that purports to show two people having sex under a sheet. Her dialogue suggests this as well: “¡Ay qué pinga mi amor! ¡Qué pinga tan rica! Tienes una pinga divina.” (I’ll translate if anyone needs it, but the gist is that she believes her lover has a great cock.)

I suppose it could be staged, but it’s certainly fair to call it a sex tape.

I have no defense on 4, except to say that clearly Trump doesn’t agree.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/29 "2016-09-30T16:32:20Z")

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**Hillary Clinton** : My opponent suggested you google and watch a sex tape. _I_ think you should google and view _pictures of my opponent’s naked wife!_

😃

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/30 "2016-09-30T16:37:05Z")

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I think when most people hear “sex tape” they’re thinking of a video made privately by one or both of the participants not a clip from broadcast TV.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/31 "2016-09-30T16:42:00Z")

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Wow. I guess I have to apologize for being so unclear.

First, I’m no shrinking violet. I’m not shocked by a sex tape, nor am I shocked that Trump says crazy things. However, in my mind this actually is a new level for him (which is not the point of my post) because he’s actually suggesting that people google the sex tape of someone who isn’t even a political figure. Americans tend to be very skittish about sex generally, and here you have a candidate for president saying we should all go look at a sex tape.

What I was really asking about was how the backers, Republican party, various conservative news outlets, etc. would (nay, could) defend such a statement. How it isn’t just the end for him. I know it won’t be, but I don’t get it… It’s a case of cognitive dissonance for me: What I see happen just doesn’t seem possible with how I think things work

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/32 "2016-09-30T16:42:43Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I think when most people hear “sex tape” they’re thinking of a video made privately by one or both of the participants not a clip from broadcast TV.

The clip I saw would not have been from broadcast TV, at least not in the United States. It would have run afoul of FCC rules.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/33 "2016-09-30T16:44:32Z")

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As usual, whoever runs Hillary’s tweet responses is on point.

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> What kind of man stays up all night to smear a woman with lies and conspiracy theories?  
> — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) September 30, 2016  
> While Donald continues day 5 of his Machado meltdown, we’ll be in Florida talking about national service. You’ll want to watch.  
> — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) September 30, 2016

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/34 "2016-09-30T16:44:38Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The clip I saw would not have been from broadcast TV, at least not in the United States. It would have run afoul of FCC rules.

Who still watches broadcast tv? Would it run on basic cable?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/35 "2016-09-30T16:45:05Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Wow. I guess I have to apologize for being so unclear.
> 
> First, I’m no shrinking violet. I’m not shocked by a sex tape, nor am I shocked that Trump says crazy things. However, in my mind this actually is a new level for him (which is not the point of my post) because he’s actually suggesting that people google the sex tape of someone who isn’t even a political figure. Americans tend to be very skittish about sex generally, and here you have a candidate for president saying we should all go look at a sex tape.
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> What I was really asking about was how the backers, Republican party, various conservative news outlets, etc. would (nay, could) defend such a statement. How it isn’t just the end for him. I know it won’t be, but I don’t get it… It’s a case of cognitive dissonance for me: What I see happen just doesn’t seem possible with how I think things work

I think you’re reading the line a bit wrongly. “Google her sex tape,” is intended, in my opinion, not as a literal command but as a rhetorical device to say, “She’s untrustworthy because she made a sex tape.”

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/36 "2016-09-30T16:48:38Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I think you’re reading the line a bit wrongly. “Google her sex tape,” is intended, in my opinion, not as a literal command but as a rhetorical device to say, “She’s untrustworthy because she made a sex tape.”

Perhaps. Does that reduce in any way Trump’s treatment of her during her Miss Universe days?

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/37 "2016-09-30T16:50:08Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I think you’re reading the line a bit wrongly. “Google her sex tape,” is intended, in my opinion, not as a literal command but as a rhetorical device to say, “She’s untrustworthy because she made a sex tape.”

Perhaps if it had come from someone with a filter between their brain and their mouth who didn’t already have a history of saying outrageously over-the-top crap. With Trump…?

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/38 "2016-09-30T16:50:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Who still watches broadcast tv? Would it run on basic cable?

Well, basic cable is unfettered by the FCC, so there’s no legal reason it could not run on basic cable.

But the clip is almost certainly too raw for the standards and practices of, say, A&E, SyFy or Discovery. Starz would be cool with it, I would imagine.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/39 "2016-09-30T16:51:53Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Perhaps. Does that reduce in any way Trump’s treatment of her during her Miss Universe days?

No, one has nothing to do with the other.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/40 "2016-09-30T16:52:28Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> The clip I saw would not have been from broadcast TV, at least not in the United States. It would have run afoul of FCC rules.

All in service of fighting ignorance and serving the public interest, no doubt. 😉

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