# Trump has Suggested Americans Google a Sex Tape

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 30, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281 "2016-09-30T13:54:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/81 "2016-09-30T23:06:11Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Trump has appeared in an actual porn (well, Playboy) film. [No kidding.](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-reportedly-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-video.html)

Paging JohnT! We need #TrumpSexTape trending stat\*.  
\*joking, not a real call to action.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/82 "2016-09-30T23:14:46Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Youtube link:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VOXOIHggnc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VOXOIHggnc)
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> Includes split screen to what I assume was an after show interview/reaction to watching herself. Donald is right, it’s disgusting. There’s nothing more disgusting than a hot latina whispering dirty sex talk. So gross, am I right guys?

Yes, but that doesn’t help me. I’ve been trying to learn Braille… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/83 "2016-09-30T23:27:08Z")

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Google Donald Trump nude.  
About 1,280,000 results (0.44 seconds)  
(Of course, those are just his orange heads spliced on another’s body)

Google Donald Trump has died.  
About 91,900,000 results (0.54 seconds)

Google Donald Trump goes broke.  
About 15,500,000 results (0.48 seconds)

Google Donald Trump has no balls.  
About 2,170,000 results (0.53 seconds)

Clearly these are true because they’re on the internet. You can only claim any of them as factual if you’re a member of Trump’s team because you know, Americans can’t “cyber” and check you.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/84 "2016-09-30T23:58:44Z")

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Issuing an insulting Twitter storm at 3 AM shows a degree of instability totally at odds for any nation’s leader, especially that of the United States.

There are any number of hard core porno films that purport to have Alicia Machado in them. I believe the Snopes story debunking of them has already been linked somewhere in Straight Dope land, but I’m too lazy to find it. They’re all fake. Her topless photos in Playboy, however, are not.

> **[Was Miss Universe Alicia Machado a 'Porn Star'?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alicia-machado-adult-star/)**
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> Former Miss Universe Alicia Machado was characterized as a 'porn star' shortly after she was mentioned by Hillary Clinton during a debate in September 2016.

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> The latter is the case with Alicia Machado. In 2009, a video clip purportedly showing the former Miss Universe winner engaging in anal sex was circulated online, and that is the clip that now most frequently shows up in response to web searches on the phrase “Alicia Machado porn.” However, the woman seen in that video is not Alicia Machado — the clip was taken from the 2004 DVD Apprentass 4, which features porn actress Angel Dark, and was later retitled to suggest it showed Alicia Machado . .

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/85 "2016-10-01T00:12:35Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> From what I’ve seen it could probably run on broadcast network (probably at night though), and certainly basic cable.

> [@Merneith](#):
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> I’ve seen more explicit stuff in Shonda Rimes’ shows.

With the dialog?

No, I’d ask for a cite on that. She’s under him, he’s between her legs thrusting rhythmically, and she’s moaning about what a magnificent cock he has. There’s no way that airs on Scandal or Grey’s Anatomy.

With silent audio - maybe. Not with her words and the visual.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/86 "2016-10-01T00:15:33Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Issuing an insulting Twitter storm at 3 AM shows a degree of instability totally at odds for any nation’s leader, especially that of the United States.
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> …
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> [http://www.snopes.com/alicia-machado-adult-star/](http://www.snopes.com/alicia-machado-adult-star/)

It’s not at all inconsistent with the “he did coke” theory either.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/87 "2016-10-01T00:16:34Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Here, by the way, is my description: it is never\* acceptable to attempt to discredit a person by publicly humiliating them with sexual accusations that describe a legal, sexual act between consenting adults. Silencing through slut-shaming is obnoxious behavior, and it’s what Trump appears to be going for here.

I don’t endorse Trump or almost any of his tactics. Including this one.

But I don’t like sloppy argument either.

And for whatever it’s worth, I’d say there are a few exceptions to the “never” rule you propose. It’s almost never acceptable, but I bet I can name an instance where you’d agree it was understandable.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/88 "2016-10-01T00:22:17Z")

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Or you could google the [soft porn](https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.beeXOzWN6#.kavlVkNQG) Donald made a cameo in.

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**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/89 "2016-10-01T00:29:29Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Or you could google the [soft porn](https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.beeXOzWN6#.kavlVkNQG) Donald made a cameo in.

I wonder if I can monetize my invisibility.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/90 "2016-10-01T00:34:50Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> All’s fair in love and [del]war[/del] politics.
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> If it works for him, it’s brilliant. If not, not.

And you just admitted the very thing that allowed Donald Trump to run. People actually believe this bullshit. Trump is just actually taking advantage of it, while every other candidate assumes there’s a limit.

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> But some fundamental moral way in which Trump is wrong to point to a sex tape, assuming it wasn’t made or publicized against the subject’s will, compared to the general state of politics? Surely you jest.

It’s called “slut shaming” and is a form of bigotry.

Yes, politics today is rather bigoted, but that doesn’t suddenly make this acceptable. And it is indeed a step further than Trump has gone before, at least, while on the campaign. Sure, he’s attacked women in the past, but he’s stuck with things that are used against both men and women, giving plausible deniability. Or given himself an out (with the bleeding thing).

Slut shaming is done primarily to women.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/91 "2016-10-01T00:37:52Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> He doesn’t have the temperament to be president of the Hair Club of America, much less prez of the USA.

Not only is he not the president of the Hair Club for Men, he’s also a member!

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/92 "2016-10-01T00:44:00Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> - A comparison that is actually not quite fair to notorious showman P. T. Barnum, who in fact made a pretty decent state- and local-level politician in the CT state legislature and as mayor of Bridgeport.

Thank you. That is only one way of showing that he, unlike Trump, was much more than a huckster.

May I be the latest to say that Alicia Machado seems like a pleasant person who happens to look like a goddess and that her picture is in my dictionary as “just my type?” Not something I can say about any of Trump’s wives or daughters.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/93 "2016-10-01T01:34:44Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I don’t endorse Trump or almost any of his tactics. Including this one.
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> But I don’t like sloppy argument either.

I don’t see how it’s any sloppier than any other post on this board, including the one I’m replying to.

The OP asserts that Trump claimed Clinton had poor judgement while himself showing poor judgement. Just because the OP didn’t unpack why Trump’s judgement was poor doesn’t make it a sloppy argument.

The OP also asserted that they didn’t see how any defense could be made for Trump’s judgement. So that opens up any counterclaim.

So far, only John Mace appears to have defended it, and Corry El hinted at the same basic defense. “All that matters is whether it works.” However, I don’t think this is a defense that people defending Trump would want to make.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/94 "2016-10-01T01:41:26Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I don’t endorse Trump or almost any of his tactics. Including this one.
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> But I don’t like sloppy argument either.

Then, and I suggest this as politely as I can, **put forth a tidier argument**. If you don’t like this tactic, why not?

Putting forth a more specific argument, suggesting refinements, is great. Criticizing other people because their arguments don’t live up to your standards, without suggesting something better? Not as great.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/95 "2016-10-01T01:43:20Z")

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I’m kind of amazed (but not really) that he’s so lacking in political acumen that he refuses to let this thing go, despite it being exactly the result that the Clinton team were hoping for. She needled him in a way that was designed to arouse his worst narcissistic impulses, and it worked marvellously.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/96 "2016-10-01T02:41:09Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> With the dialog?
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> No, I’d ask for a cite on that. She’s under him, he’s between her legs thrusting rhythmically, and she’s moaning about what a magnificent cock he has. There’s no way that airs on Scandal or Grey’s Anatomy.
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> With silent audio - maybe. Not with her words and the visual.

With bleeped dialogue.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/97 "2016-10-01T03:11:39Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> She needled him in a way that was designed to arouse his

I stopped reading at that point.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/98 "2016-10-01T11:16:34Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> I’m kind of amazed (but not really) that he’s so lacking in political acumen that he refuses to let this thing go, despite it being exactly the result that the Clinton team were hoping for. She needled him in a way that was designed to arouse his worst narcissistic impulses, and it worked marvellously.

Trump is incapable of saying he’s sorry—another trademark of a narcissistic personality. He must be right at all costs, even if he’s wrong. This is why he refuses to let it go. He also has come to believe his own pathological lies, and he cannot remember what is true and what he has fabricated. It is a wonder how, despite all of his rather glaring mental deficiencies, the GOP (and so many of his followers) actually believed he could be fit to hold public office. If he doesn’t have the stamina to maintain his composure for a 90 minute debate, how can he be expected to last a four year term?  
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/99 "2016-10-01T13:07:02Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Or you could google the [soft porn](https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-appeared-in-a-2000-playboy-softcore-porn?utm_term=.beeXOzWN6#.kavlVkNQG) Donald made a cameo in.

Soft porn?

There’s a pill for that, Donald.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-has-suggested-americans-google-a-sex-tape/767281/100 "2016-10-01T13:09:15Z")

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> [@AndrewL](#):
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> Donald doesn’t just shoot himself in the foot. He shoots himself in the foot, then shoots himself in the foot again to prove he meant it, then shoots the other foot just in case it gets any ideas.

And 50 million people stand in line to vote for him afterwards. That is the depressing part.

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