# Trump-haters: What things do you \*agree\* with Trump on? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 30, 2026, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489 "2026-05-30T08:14:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/101 "2026-07-06T13:32:30Z")
> [@Jegpeg](#): > > Do you agree that Trump doing such things is good for America? I can’t even see an argument for that position. Of course it’s not good for America. I’m no soccer fan, but I’ve got to believe Trump’s interference is also bad for soccer. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/102 "2026-07-06T15:27:58Z")
**Moderating** : This question isn’t really on topic and any detailed discussion doesn’t belong in this thread. So I’ll hide it. _This is just a guidance, not a warning._ ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/103 "2026-09-07T13:56:50Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Not sure how to phrase it, and the way Trump’s done it is nearly 100% wrong, but the Dems need to flex more muscle both domestically and in foreign policy when they’re back in power. The purpose of having power is to use it. A lot of the time the US acts like that big kid who gets messed with by smaller asshole kids because they’re afraid of getting in trouble and/or hurting someone. But… if they’d twist an arm or punch a few teeth every so often, nobody would mess with them, they’d be more respected, and everything would run more smoothly. I mean, Iran is half the reason the Middle East has been problematic for decades, and successive US administrations have been afraid to check Iran in any substantial way, when it should have been done in the 1970s or 1980s. Of course Trump is doing it in a stunningly incompetent, unfocused sort of way, but at least he’s doing it. Oh, and getting rid of that Social Security windfall provision is personally advantageous. Now I get both the pension I’m paying into, as well as the Social Security I paid into for 20 years, as opposed to just the pension and a pittance from SS. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/104 "2026-09-07T14:09:31Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I mean, Iran is half the reason the Middle East has been problematic for decades, and successive US administrations have been afraid to check Iran in any substantial way, when it should have been done in the 1970s or 1980s. Of course Trump is doing it in a stunningly incompetent, unfocused sort of way, but at least he’s doing it. A reminder that they **were** substantively checked by the agreement that Obama put in place and that Trump destroyed _entirely_ because it had Obama’s name on it. And now, having reversed the most positive progress made in the Middle East in generations, he decided to double down on fucking it up. If anything, he’s rallying more support globally for Iran and against the US. This is particularly noteworthy because the nuclear containment agreement with Iran was one of the best examples of Democrats “flexing more muscle” in foreign policy in recent decades. Which they (and Republicans as well) are going to find much, much harder to do in future, thanks to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/105 "2026-09-07T14:11:40Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/106 "2026-09-07T14:12:31Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/107 "2026-09-07T14:23:08Z")
I thought of one thing I can agree with, just not the way it was implemented. Stopping the minting of pennies. Long, long overdue. I would phase out the nickel while I was at it. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/109 "2026-09-07T15:03:42Z")
On the topic of the thread, this may not so much be a Trump complaint as a MAGA complaint (although Trump himself plays it up a lot to win votes), but I agree that there is often a double standard in the way Christianity and other religions are treated, in the sense that Christianity is often the _only_ religion that can be safely criticized or mocked freely by Hollywood, media, academics and others with no fear of being called a “-phobe” (the term “Christianophobia” carries no weight whatsoever, unlike “Islamophobia”) while every other religion is shielded by “don’t mock them, it’s bigotry to mock them,” followed by possible cancellation of someone who mocks those other religions. And on top of that, it very much often does feel that Islam, for all of its patriarchal, sexist, homophobic, bad behaviors, gets looser and more lenient treatment compared to Christianity - which despite also being a similar Abrahamic religion, is arguably overall less bad than Islam. Progressives will usually defend that by saying Christianity is the dominant religion, that it’s punching up and not punching down, etc. But the perception, and difference in standard, is real. This was likely a huge factor in propelling such a vast amount of the evangelical vote to go MAGA. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/110 "2026-09-07T15:25:10Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > On the topic of the thread, this may not so much be a Trump complaint as a MAGA complaint (although Trump himself plays it up a lot to win votes), but I agree that there is often a double standard in the way Christianity and other religions are treated, in the sense that Christianity is often the _only_ religion that can be safely criticized or mocked freely by Hollywood, media, academics and others with no fear of being called a “-phobe That’s just because Christianity is the only religion that can even be portrayed in the media at all. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/111 "2026-09-07T15:47:10Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Christianity - which despite also being a similar Abrahamic religion, is arguably overall less bad than Islam. Is it less bad though _in America_? In terms of how many people it affects (both believers and non-believers culturally and legislatively)? I mean, we don’t spend much time criticizing the aztec religion and that was worse than either. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/112 "2026-09-07T16:05:08Z")
That’s…not so. There is media coverage of…others. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/113 "2026-09-07T16:15:40Z")
Yes, the famous American media coverage of Muslims, which is entirely comparable to that of its coverage of Christianity. As per mod instructions about non-Trump topics, I am suggesting we take this [outside](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/christianophobia-is-there-a-double-standard-in-the-way-christianity-is-treated/1032877). ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/114 "2026-09-07T16:26:27Z")
FWIW, I did write that post because it **was** Trump-related, because it was one thing Trump himself touted and something his supporters often cited as a reason to vote for him. But yes, I’ll go to the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/115 "2026-09-07T16:40:53Z")
I’m a little surprised no one has mentioned this: We no longer have to take our shoes off when we go through airport security. I hate Trump as much as anyone, but as someone who flies a lot, that has been a fantastic improvement. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/116 "2026-09-07T16:41:17Z")
But did Trump himself ever advocate for that or even was aware of that? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/117 "2026-09-07T16:42:35Z")
It was his administration, so it has to count in some way. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/118 "2026-09-11T12:25:44Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > But the perception, and difference in standard, is real. This was likely a huge factor in propelling such a vast amount of the evangelical vote to go MAGA. I agree fully. If you go off and say that Islam is backward, and Mohammed was a pedophile (both of which are pretty much true), people will absolutely pile on to tell you you’re intolerant or an Islamophile, and bend over backwards to explain how the guy being betrothed to a seven year old and then consummating the marriage when she was ten is somehow NOT pedophilia. Say similar or worse things about Christianity, and it’s just nods or blank stares. And while I don’t agree, I can completely see how from a certain point of view, it looks very anti-Christian when authorities are bending over backwards to accommodate Muslims at airports, in workplaces, etc… while getting rid of the overtly Christian stuff they grew up with, like the Ten Commandments at the courthouse, or prayers before football games, or whatever. I don’t doubt that many MAGA types come from that point of view, and view this as attacks on Christianity. They aren’t of course, but I can understand how they could be seen like that if you’re a person who isn’t very clear on the idea of civil liberties or who comes from a mono-Christian background and community. Hell, I’m neither MAGA nor Evangelical (I’m a pretty liberal Episcopalian), and I get kind of irritated at the way people in the media and especially online talk about “Christians”, when they really mean “Evangelicals” and “Fundamentalists”. There’s a huge gulf between what they believe and practice and what I do (and really all the mainstream denominations do), and I don’t appreciate being lumped in with those clowns. But it’s apparently just fine to bash the entire religion like that, in ways that you can’t with say… Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/119 "2026-09-11T13:09:00Z")
> [@bump](#): > > If you go off and say that Islam is backward, and Mohammed was a pedophile (both of which are pretty much true) I hear things like this all the time, and from prominent figures. And indeed I say words to this effect myself, though I focus on (both) being books of myths with mostly odious morals. Calling the _whole thing_ backwards just invites examples where the morals actually are still reasonable by modern standards. Now, it would be true that the left is usually more willing to criticize christianity than islam. And that’s because the latter often seems like punching down. (But I think the talking point of the left being hypocritical because they are pro-muslim and pro-gay rights is a myth. Freedom of religious expression =/= pro-muslim) > [@bump](#): > > And while I don’t agree, I can completely see how from a certain point of view, it looks very anti-Christian when authorities are bending over backwards to accommodate Muslims at airports, in workplaces, etc… while getting rid of the overtly Christian stuff they grew up with, like the Ten Commandments at the courthouse, or prayers before football games, or whatever. I’m with you in _not_ agreeing. Because in most cases, we’re talking about accommodations made to muslims that are equivalent to, or at least on the way to being the same as provisions for christians. Versus public endorsements of religion that are explicitly unconstitutional. > [@bump](#): > > I get kind of irritated at the way people in the media and especially online talk about “Christians”, when they really mean “Evangelicals” and “Fundamentalists”. This one I can understand, I’ll bet it is annoying. But look at it from other people’s point of view. When I see someone on TV saying abortion should be banned, and we need to get Jesus into our schools etc, all I know is that she’s Christian. I don’t know her denomination or views on things like biblical literalism. And indeed there are people with awful social views who are Christian but neither of the sub-groups you mention. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/120 "2026-09-11T13:53:13Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Now, it would be true that the left is usually more willing to criticize christianity than islam. And that’s because the latter often seems like punching down. Missed edit window: as I said in a previous post; the increased “willingness” to criticize christians is specifically because of the ways that many christians in the US are trying to take away rights, erode separation of church and state, and hold back scientific progress / education. It was unfortunate phrasing in my last post, because I think some people will see it as “Aha! You admit the left has it in for christians!” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489/121 "2026-09-11T14:40:09Z")
Circling back to the the thread topic: In his first term I liked the Second Chance Act and Operation Warp Drive. But that last one (vaccine development) is an example of why I have trouble bringing up any parts of the administration’s policies or actions I might agree with any more: He makes it too damn unpredictable to know if he still supports today the policy he proclaimed last term/year/month/Tuesday; or if he still does if we can then expect it enforced and followed up the way most normal people would expect a normal government to do so; or even if he’ll wander off and and make what happens next be someone else’s problem. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-haters-what-things-do-you-agree-with-trump-on/1030489.md?page=7)