# Trump held in contempt in NY **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 26, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452 "2022-04-26T00:48:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/1 "2022-04-26T00:48:57Z")
[NY judge hold trump in contempt of court for withholding documents.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/court-rules-new-york-attorney-general-donald-trump-contempt_n_6266d167e4b0d0774863ce9a) I’m math challenged- $10,000 a day to a “billionaire” is how much to a minimum wager? ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/2 "2022-04-26T00:53:09Z")
I’m not holding my breath, but they got Al Capone on tax evasion. Irony would be sending a ‘billionaire’ to jail over a pittance. > **[Al Capone Sentenced To Prison For Tax Evasion On This Day In 1931](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/10/17/al-capone-sentenced-to-prison-for-tax-evasion-on-this-day-in-1931/?sh=161accea7c4c)** > > Al Capone reportedly boasted, "They can't collect legal taxes from illegal money." He found that wasn't true on this day in 1931 when he was sentenced to prison for tax evasion. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/3 "2022-04-26T01:02:09Z")
“Lock him up, it’ll teach him a lesson,” ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/4 "2022-04-26T01:27:13Z")
When you guys put trump in the car and you’re protecting his head you know, the way you put your hand over their head, you can take the hand away, OK? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/5 "2022-04-26T02:48:40Z")
I would guess it would be a lot cheaper for us to have him locked up the the current protection he gets from the SS. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/6 "2022-04-26T03:03:03Z")
When they lock trump up, and Greene and Gaetz storm the Bastille, I hope Greene is reminded that sans-culottes doesn’t mean she doesn’t have to wear pants. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/7 "2022-04-26T03:08:13Z")
No amount of brain bleach will get _that_ image out. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/8 "2022-04-26T03:18:20Z")
Alex Jones was given fines for every day of contempt - which were refunded when he responded. So the literal answer to the OP is: zero is exactly the same percentage for a billionaire and for a minimum wage worker. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/9 "2022-04-26T05:54:52Z")
Trump’s handlers in the case are saying that no such documents exist. Or at least that, after a good-faith search, none such could be found. How would anyone know? More general question: When prosecutors or plaintiffs or Congressional investigators want to subpoena documents, how do they know what documents supposedly exist? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/10 "2022-04-26T15:46:16Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > [NY judge hold trump in contempt of court for withholding documents.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/court-rules-new-york-attorney-general-donald-trump-contempt_n_6266d167e4b0d0774863ce9a) I’m math challenged- $10,000 a day to a “billionaire” is how much to a minimum wager? There’s a big difference, for a “billionaire,” between the kind of hot air monetary values that get talked about when you are applying for a bank loan, and real hard currency that is being taken out of your account every day. If it kept going for a year (do they collect only on business days when the court is open?) it would add up to around $2.5 million. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/11 "2022-04-26T17:08:41Z")
When I read the thread title, my first thought was "Isn’t he held in contempt _every_where? ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/12 "2022-04-26T21:50:57Z")
Gonna steal that… ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/13 "2022-04-26T22:36:36Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I’m math challenged- $10,000 a day to a “billionaire” is how much to a minimum wager? This is the wrong question. The judge is not trying to make money here. The goal of the judge is to get Trump to comply with the order. $10,000 a day is a signal of this intent, but it is nowhere near the limit of what the judge can order. Trump will either comply or convince the judge that compliance is impossible. How we get there is mostly irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/14 "2022-04-27T19:16:23Z")
Fucker’s going to countersue and file motions to delay. He’s never going to comply and never going to pay a nickel. He never pays for anything. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/15 "2022-04-27T19:24:21Z")
I’m not so sure about that. I mean, his appeal was absolutely predictable. The nominal purpose of a real appeal – that the original ruling was flawed or based on inaccurate information – means nothing to the Orange Marmoset. He’s appealing because he can, purely as a delaying tactic. But courts have limited patience with blatant bullshit. Unless he runs into one of the judges that he himself elevated from obscurity and incompetence into a position to make judgments. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/16 "2022-04-27T19:43:28Z")
Still, what are they going to do if he just ignores them? Doesn’t supply documents, doesn’t pay fines. Are they going to lock him up? No. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/17 "2022-04-28T01:14:07Z")
Put a lien on Trump Tower? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/18 "2022-04-28T03:46:19Z")
Perhaps they could also take some collections actions. The judge could order Trump’s tenants in Trump Tower and other properties in New York to pay their rents directly to the Court until further notice. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/19 "2022-04-28T03:59:13Z")
I was under the impression that, when the judges are really serious, they have it double every week you are out of compliance. Like happened here: > **[Yahoo $250,000 daily fine over NSA data refusal was set to double 'every week'](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/11/yahoo-nsa-lawsuit-documents-fine-user-data-refusal)** > > Company releases 1,500 documents from failed suit against NSA over user data requests and cooperation with Prism compliance ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-held-in-contempt-in-ny/963452/20 "2022-04-28T04:04:07Z")
Like other “Finally! We’ve got the bastard!” declarations in the past, I fully expect T-Rump to slither out of this too.