# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/421 "2021-02-12T19:58:43Z")

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No, but that it was antifa, etc.

Hell. Maybe Hillary, they are clearly insane.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/422 "2021-02-12T20:00:55Z")

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My Doc said my Blood Pressure is “marginal”, so keep a eye on it, etc.

I thus choose not to watch the hypertension causing silliness.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/423 "2021-02-12T20:02:00Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Had Pence (and his family) ended up hanging outside the Capitol, the realization that Trumpism had finally achieved the “murder someone in the street” stage and that no one, no matter how fawning, was safe would have finally struck home.

> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> The “and his family” is another matter; I’m just saying there might not even have been the public mourning.

Wonder what the traitor Senators would have thought if Pence’s copy of the nuclear football (because the VP gets a backup just in case he needs to take over suddenly) had wound up in the hands of the mob. In the video they showed of Pence, family, and aids being ushered out the back door of the chamber and down the stairs you can actually spot the military guy carrying it.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/424 "2021-02-12T20:02:05Z")

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so the defence is, he can say anything he wants, the house managers are big, lying, poopyheads.

wow.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/425 "2021-02-12T20:09:51Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Jesus. Now they’re showing “evidence” of Democrats and liberals using violent language against Trump.

Yes, lots of whataboutism.

> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> They really ARE throwing Trump followers under the bus!

Of course. They’ve served their use. Now, like used toilet paper, they are to be disposed of. All those people were lied to and duped, and only at the end will they realize it. And some not even then.

But, honestly, I don’t know how else the Trump lawyers are going to try to defend the indefensible. Sucks to be a defense attorney sometimes, I guess.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Are they planning on going the full 16 allotted hours with this BS?

They said they only wanted 3 or 4… which will probably feel like 16… but who knows?

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/426 "2021-02-12T20:28:51Z")

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I happened to be watching the trial’s feed on CSPAN’s website. It’s still on in the background and now I’m listening to people calling in to comment.

Holy smokes. Not sure how long I can listen to this lunacy. But at the same time I can’t look away.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/427 "2021-02-12T20:38:55Z")

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the defence is over? huh. interesting.

first amendment and democrats do it as well? wow. on to the questions.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/428 "2021-02-12T21:08:22Z")

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What a pathetic defence. If this was a criminal trial it would be slam dunk.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/429 "2021-02-12T21:10:35Z")

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Question from Graham: Does a politician raising bail for rioters encourage more rioting?

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/430 "2021-02-12T21:12:29Z")

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Collins threw Trump’s counsel a curve ball. No, “please tell us how great President Trump is.” She and Murkoswski are on the conviction train.

This guy is not even coming close to the question either. Ignoring it completely. And walks off. What a dick.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/431 "2021-02-12T21:12:44Z")

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one word answer. “yes”.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/432 "2021-02-12T21:15:09Z")

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What was Collins’ question? I’m behind.

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**Author:** ![emulsified](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emulsified/32/2915_2.png) [@emulsified](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emulsified)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/433 "2021-02-12T21:21:08Z")

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She asked Trump’s lawyers for a detailed timeline of steps he took to end the rioting.

They said since the dems rushed the impeachment, there was no time to investigate what he did to put together a timeline.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/434 "2021-02-12T21:21:44Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/435 "2021-02-12T21:32:37Z")

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So the defense’s answer to every question is “we don’t know because of the rush to impeachment.” Funny that the prosecution had the exact same amount of time to put together a rock solid case.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/436 "2021-02-12T21:33:45Z")

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did he just miss that the senator from alabama told trump that pence was taken away?

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/437 "2021-02-12T21:35:07Z")

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More like “wilfully ignored”.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/438 "2021-02-12T21:36:13Z")

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Another stellar argument. “Hey, this is about incitement - not what happened _after_ the incitement!”

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/439 "2021-02-12T21:41:36Z")

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So Trump’s defense just argued that Tuberville lied when he said that he told Trump that they had just moved Pence - before Trump’s tweet occurred. I, and multitudes of others, are asking snarkily, why we can’t have witnesses? Tuberville under oath would be like prime time pay-per-view quality entertainment.

So I ask this: has that shipped sailed? Is there still a possibility of a vote on witnesses? I thought we were watching the final act.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/440 "2021-02-12T21:44:35Z")

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> [@emulsified](#):
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> They said since the dems rushed the impeachment, there was no time to investigate what he did to put together a timeline.

Well now, perhaps they could just ask their client.

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