# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/461 "2021-02-12T22:54:42Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I think I posted this during the first Senate impeachment hearing. Worth the few minutes for relevance _and_ the trip down Memory Lane. I freaking LOVE that movie. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/462 "2021-02-12T23:01:10Z")
The GOP case is so amazingly stupid, it pains me to think that almost half our country are under such mental defect that they gobble this shit up. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/463 "2021-02-12T23:01:17Z")
had a commuter break. Looks like rankin has had enough of this. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/464 "2021-02-12T23:07:00Z")
Damn, Stacey Plaskett is so fricking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/465 "2021-02-12T23:15:30Z")
There’s also the whole _prejudicial use of the term ‘due process’ by the Shit-Gibbon’s attorneys:_ > **[Due-Process Rights Don’t Apply in an Impeachment Trial](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/01/trump-has-no-right-due-process-his-impeachment-trial/605641/)** > > Depriving a president of power does not require the same protective measures as when the state deprives a private citizen of life, liberty, or property. [many other articles say substantially the same thing: due process really doesn’t apply where your _power,_ and not your life/liberty, is at stake] ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/466 "2021-02-12T23:16:35Z")
Michael van der Veen is without a doubt the most annoying slimeball lawyer I’ve seen since the OJ murder trial. I was streaming CNN but had to stop due to blood pressure. The orange shit-gibbon must love him, but probably still won’t pay him. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/467 "2021-02-12T23:18:12Z")
Randomish thought. The thrust of the prosecution is that if there are no consequences for criminal actions by a President, then future Presidents will act with impunity in breaking laws and norms. This is _exactly_ what the Republican Party politicians want, so long as it is a Republican president acting with impunity. Of course, if it’s a Democratic party president, then they’ll go all guns blazin’ . Don’t bother hitting them with the hypocrisy of it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/468 "2021-02-12T23:18:35Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > [many other articles say substantially the same thing: due process really doesn’t apply where your _power,_ and not your life/liberty, is at stake] The concept of due process applies, but the level of process that is due varies greatly. It’s the reason you don’t get a jury trial for a traffic ticket, but you still have due process. (some opportunity to contest, etc) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/469 "2021-02-12T23:23:36Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I think I posted this during the first Senate impeachment hearing. Worth the few minutes for relevance _and_ the trip down Memory Lane. “Oyez, oyez, all rise for the courtroom scene, take 1!” Different courtroom scene, of course. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/470 "2021-02-12T23:29:28Z")
“I’d like to take one, too, Dad.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/471 "2021-02-12T23:31:42Z")
The GOP’s defense of Trump: _“Oh yeah, well what about…?”_ ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/472 "2021-02-12T23:35:24Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > Worth the few minutes for relevance _and_ the trip down Memory Lane. Today’s Congress would undoubtedly benefit from the prudence and judiciousness of Sen. Bluto Blutarski. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/473 "2021-02-12T23:37:53Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Michael van der Veen is without a doubt the most annoying slimeball lawyer I’ve seen since the OJ murder trial. I was streaming CNN but had to stop due to blood pressure. The orange shit-gibbon must love him, but probably still won’t pay him. The guy was really starting to sound like a broken record. You all remember records, right? Where you put the needle down on the… oh wait, that was the other idiot on the defense team. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/474 "2021-02-12T23:43:17Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I was streaming CNN but had to stop due to blood pressure. Yours or his? 😉 Seriously, given the anger that was clearly rising in a few of Van Der Veen’s responses, I thought he was going to bust a blood vessel. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/475 "2021-02-12T23:46:41Z")
Van der Veen is apparently one of those slimeball personal injury lawyers when he’s not shilling for Trump. Apparently specializes in dog bites, but he’ll do any personal injury lawsuit. Last year he sued Trump for false claims about mail-in voting fraud, but I guess things change … > **[One of Trump’s Impeachment Lawyers Is a Personal Injury Attorney Who Sued...](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/donald-trump-michael-van-der-veen-impeachment)** > > Michael T. van der Veen specializes in dog bites, among other things. > [@Spoons](#): > > Seriously, given the anger that was clearly rising in a few of Van Der Veen’s responses, I thought he was going to bust a blood vessel. Probably pretend anger, unless he was upset at how crappily his case was unfolding. I couldn’t watch long enough to really get a solid impression. At least not without a few stiff drinks. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/476 "2021-02-12T23:49:18Z")
Anybody else catch this one ? > **[New details about Trump-McCarthy shouting match show Trump refused to call...](https://keyt.com/politics/2021/02/12/new-details-about-trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-show-trump-refused-to-call-off-the-rioters/)** > > In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/477 "2021-02-13T00:12:30Z")
Whoa, looks like there maybe some new things in the closing statements. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/478 "2021-02-13T00:12:44Z")
Well, sure - Trump was sending a message. Either do what I want or I’ll send jack-booted thugs to hurt you. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/479 "2021-02-13T00:23:01Z")
Yet McCarthy voted no on impeachment, and even went down to Florida subsequently to kneel before Trump and ask for his donor list, which by the way, [Trump didn’t give him](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1360381434607861760). Jesus, Republicans, is there no depth you all are willing to subject yourself to? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/480 "2021-02-13T01:31:37Z")
If I were a lawyer I would be ashamed of my profession. I have never seen that level of courtroom crap in all my life…an I am including cheap sitcoms and bad movies. Can you imagine how a judge would have reacted if an attorney had presented that totally out of context “fight” clip during a trial? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=25)