# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/561 "2021-02-13T17:20:13Z")
Jack Nicholson was cajoled into telling the truth, and he actually made a somewhat compelling argument for what he did. Trump will not tell the truth, he will blather on with meaningless lies. I’m less holding out hope that this gets his enablers and sycophants to turn against him, but increases the Democrats (including their voters) resolve to continue to hold Republicans accountable for their behavior, as well as potentially being able to charge him with perjury, but that’s a more minor matter. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/562 "2021-02-13T17:21:11Z")
> Sen. Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin, said the push for witnesses will “further inflame the situation” Oh goodness! We would not want to “further inflame” things beyond a president sending a mob to the Capitol Building to kill the Vice President and stop the counting of Electoral Votes! What’s he threatening? More violence? This sounds like more mob boss talk. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/563 "2021-02-13T17:24:48Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What’s he threatening? More violence? This sounds like more mob boss talk. He’s parroting the well-established GOP talking point that any attempt at accountability = divisive. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/564 "2021-02-13T17:30:16Z")
It’s time to ramp up the Grifting Machine! > ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/565 "2021-02-13T17:32:51Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > They can subpoena him. He can take the 5th amendment, if he wants, but that will be a pretty strong indication he’s guilty. Does the fifth amendment apply here? It is not a trial in the usual sense in that if found guilty, Trump would _be deprived of life, liberty, or property_ (unless you count what he can further grift). All they can do is turn him out of office (already done) and prevent him from holding any federal office or position of trust. Hell, he can even be governor of Wyoming\* if he wants to run for that. \*The state with the largest percentage voting for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/566 "2021-02-13T17:33:44Z")
What happens if no one will represent him? Does he get the equivalent of a court appointed attorney, does he have to represent himself? One reason to draw this out is simply to exhaust Trump’s resources. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/567 "2021-02-13T17:34:55Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I’m baffled by Graham’s threat to call Pelosi. It’s like these guys are so greasy that they’re threatened by the faint possibility of testifying, and they just assume that everybody else in the world is likewise dirty. They’re hoping the zipper on the human costume over the lizard underneath will show. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/568 "2021-02-13T17:37:14Z")
If I were the impeachment manager, I’d call Sidney Powell to the stand, just to see her spout off a bunch of crazy ass stuff about mole-men and the zombie Hugo Chavez and make the Republicans defend her. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/569 "2021-02-13T17:41:38Z")
Anybody know why CNN is showing a picture of a sonogram? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/570 "2021-02-13T17:43:13Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Mitch McConnell…you’re a pussy. A pox on the voters in Kentucky who returned him to Washington. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/571 "2021-02-13T17:49:06Z")
They can force him to appear, but he can take the 5th. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/572 "2021-02-13T17:50:57Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > They can force him to appear, but he can take the 5th Yeah. I wonder why no one has brought that up before. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/573 "2021-02-13T17:52:24Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > They can subpoena him. He can take the 5th amendment, if he wants, but that will be a pretty strong indication he’s guilty. Yes, true. But “… that will be a pretty strong indication he’s guilty.” is wrong _wrong_ WRONG a thousand times wrong. Everyone has this right and it is no more a indication of guilt that hiring a lawyer. It is a basic right enshrined in the Bill of Rights. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/574 "2021-02-13T17:54:37Z")
I know that and _you_ know that, but it’s worth recalling DJT’s take on the subject: > “The mob takes the Fifth,” he said at an Iowa campaign rally in September. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” [Source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/23/if-youre-innocent-why-are-you-taking-the-fifth-trump-said-years-after-invoking-it-himself/) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/575 "2021-02-13T17:54:45Z")
Looks like no witnesses. Just a statement. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/576 "2021-02-13T17:55:44Z")
The 101st Airborne. No Governor is gonna take on the Feds. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/577 "2021-02-13T17:56:04Z")
That’s disappointing. I don’t think this is the absolute best case the House Managers could have made, and regardless of how certain acquittal is, IMO it’s important to make the absolute best case possible, and that would require witnesses. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/578 "2021-02-13T18:00:36Z")
Damn. I wanted to see those depositions in Fillydelphia. > **[Always Sunny in Fillydelphia by GSphere on DeviantArt](https://www.deviantart.com/gsphere/art/Always-Sunny-in-Fillydelphia-269649973)** ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/579 "2021-02-13T18:05:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Give me the name of one individual currently serving in either house of Congress in any party who has the balls to issue a subpoena on trump. Pelosi. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/580 "2021-02-13T18:06:01Z")
He certainly can, it is a classic move in Senate trials. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=30)