# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/41 "2021-02-09T18:45:34Z")
I think it’s also advantageous because it gets the events of January 6th back to the top of the news cycle. And it’s the right thing to do, historically. Yeah, the Republicans are going to scream…unfair…witch hunt…hoax…at the top of their lungs, but they are always going to do that no matter what Democrats do. It’s important that they _ **not** _ let the massive continuous gaslighting modify their behavior. That’s the same as negotiating with the terrorists. I just don’t see it as being bad for Democrats, except in the sense that right wing media will find a “this looks bad for Democrats” angle to everything. The Democrats won, and they need to keep acting like it. They owe it to the 81 million voters that put them into office. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/42 "2021-02-09T18:47:26Z")
Democrats getting the term “January Exception” out there in full force. I want to hear one Republican give an answer to the question of whether Biden gets one free coup as long as he does it after losing an election in his last few weeks in office. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/43 "2021-02-09T18:48:02Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The upside is that this is the proper and correct response to illegal and anti-democratic action by a president, and if the Democrats don’t try to do this right, there really isn’t much point to doing anything right. > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The Democrats won, and they need to keep acting like it.- No more Mr. Nice Guy. Ask yourself how the Republicans would be handling this if the shoe were on the other foot? Just blow it off? Not likely. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/44 "2021-02-09T18:53:52Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I guess this is true but it’s not terribly encouraging. Setting an example of upholding the rule of law and exposing corruption and wrongdoing in government is a hugely important task. It’s all the more important if one of the major political parties has basically given up on those responsibilities. Consider the comparatively few but crucial Republicans who obeyed the law and told the truth about 2020 election results, despite being dishonestly reviled and attacked by their fellow Republicans, because they knew it was the right thing to do. We can’t just throw those people under the bus by sacrificing all considerations of public duty to short-term political advantage. And I think that in terms of long-term political advantage, principle pays off. When Democrats were pushing for the investigation of the Watergate scandal, a lot of Republicans (not least Nixon himself) complained loud and long that it was merely a “partisan witch hunt”. That did not add to the luster of the GOP’s reputation in the long run. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/45 "2021-02-09T18:57:24Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Democrats getting the term “January Exception” out there in full force. I want to hear one Republican give an answer to the question of whether Biden gets one free coup as long as he does it after losing an election in his last few weeks in office. Great point, if someone would bother to make it. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/46 "2021-02-09T18:58:08Z")
Benghazi! ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/47 "2021-02-09T18:58:48Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Consider the comparatively few but crucial Republicans who obeyed the law and told the truth about 2020 election results, despite being dishonestly reviled and attacked by their fellow Republicans, because they knew it was the right thing to do. We can’t just throw those people under the bus by sacrificing all considerations of public duty to short-term political advantage. Excellent point. > [@Kimstu](#): > > And I think that in terms of long-term political advantage, principle pays off. When Democrats were pushing for the investigation of the Watergate scandal, a lot of Republicans (not least Nixon himself) complained loud and long that it was merely a “partisan witch hunt”. That did not add to the luster of the GOP’s reputation in the long run. I believe the landscape has changed too much for this to be a realistic expectation. But, we have nothing to base our forecasts on except the past. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/48 "2021-02-09T18:59:17Z")
Yep. There’s the infamous deplorables, right there chanting Trump’s name and stating they are acting on orders from Donald Trump “who is still our president”. It really summarizes the Dotard’s lifestyle. Those morons on video represent all Trump’s contractors, real estate agents, doctors, etc. No class whatsoever. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/49 "2021-02-09T19:00:04Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > The Democrats won, and they need to keep acting like it. They owe it to the 81 million voters that put them into office. This is a good point. I’m just not sure if the Democrats understand how parties act when they win. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/50 "2021-02-09T19:03:51Z")
I’m missing something, wasn’t there an early vote were the senate voted to dismiss the trial? The Trump supporters failed, all Democrats and a few Republican senators did vote to continue yes, so then why are they discussing today why this trial should go ahead? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/51 "2021-02-09T19:10:46Z")
The earlier vote was to table the arguments for the trail to be unconstitutional. They are now having the tabled argument. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/52 "2021-02-09T19:11:32Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I’m just not sure if the Democrats understand how parties act when they win. Could it be because Democrats actually believe that their role is to serve the public, rather than score points for their party? Your statement is very telling. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/53 "2021-02-09T19:17:40Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Could it be because Democrats actually believe that their role is to serve the public, rather than score points for their party? Your statement is very telling. What do you think my statement tells you? ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/54 "2021-02-09T19:32:37Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Harris isn’t President of the Senate for this Impeachment trial - Senator Leahy is -so she has no role nor vote. What I read is that she didn’t like the optics of presiding over the trial. Very likely, the VP usually yields to the Pro-tem on impeachment trials, but then the VP usually doesn’t preside until their vote is crucial. In any case this is kind of unprecedented. Usually, the chief just presides when a president in tried, but Trump is no longer president. I guess they can make up the rules on the spot. But I think if Harris decided to preside, there would be no way to stop her. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/55 "2021-02-09T19:43:22Z")
Jamie, what a powerful statement. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/56 "2021-02-09T19:49:58Z")
Janie Raskin is killing it. It’s too bad both Maryland Senators are Democrats, it would be hard for him to move into the Senate. Larry Hogan’s a Reoublican, Raskin could run for Governor, if that were his wont. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/57 "2021-02-09T20:13:28Z")
What the hell is Castor talking about? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/58 "2021-02-09T20:16:56Z")
Is this the Chewbacca defense? ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/59 "2021-02-09T20:17:53Z")
LOL, that’s what came to mind. Is this guy high? Is this the best they can do? _Really?_ ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/60 "2021-02-09T20:19:05Z")
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