# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/742 "2021-02-15T16:24:33Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> The article hit close to home for me as well. My mother is retired, doesn’t have any activities outside the house, and spends an inordinate amount of time online. She refers to Biden as a “kiddie diddler,” believes he stole the election, refers to Kamala Harris as a “whore,” believes the COVID vaccine will harm a lot of people, and thinks COVID isn’t any more dangerous than the flu and all our precautions are a deliberate overreaction on the part of the government to make us communist/socialist.

Yeah, I’ve got relations like that. It’s because everyone in their news and social bubbles repeat those messages over and over. It’s a cult of lies.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/743 "2021-02-15T17:20:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> then being AGAIN in a jury where you’re judging his guilt in robbing the bank… and you still let him go.

They were not just _in the bank._ They held the door for the robbers, assisted with stuffing the money bag, and put gas in the getaway car.  
Then they sit on the jury and swear an oath to be impartial. The robber has threatened their careers, and they themselves have strategy meetings with the defense team. _While serving on the jury._

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/744 "2021-02-15T17:41:58Z")

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My cousin Vinny could have defended him

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/745 "2021-02-15T17:46:01Z")

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Pretty much like my uncle, who’s a Vietnam vet.

He was also an unapologetic nationalist and generally had a low regard for democrats, blaming the liberal democrats for pulling out of Nam before we had a chance to bring the fight to the enemy and all that stuff. Even so, he was fairly reasonable and tolerant of opposing viewpoints until around 2008 when a black guy with a funny name became president and “Killary” tried to become the first woman president 8 years later.

He’ll deny until he’s blue in the face that he’s not sexist or semi-racist. “I liked Sarah Palin and I liked Herman Cain – I’m not racist!!! It’s you lib snowflakes who are the real sexists and racists!!!”

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/746 "2021-02-15T17:49:34Z")

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It wouldn’t have mattered if DJT himself showed up and testified: “Yes I tried to get the mob to murder Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi, I know damn well I lost the election fair and square but I tried to subvert democracy and get re-elected so that I can avoid prison. And I expect every single Republican to vote to acquit because if you don’t, I will endorse your opponent in the primary and you will lose.” Like the obedient sheep that they are, they would have ended up with about the same vote.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/747 "2021-02-15T23:01:48Z")

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Idiot fucking bastards who giggle to themselves that they’re “Winning!” after having just lost the White House and Senate.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/748 "2021-02-16T17:24:02Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> My mother wasn’t always like this. I still visit her every week but we don’t generally talk about politics and I avoid any heavy topics because I don’t really trust her input. It’s not that we always agreed on the issues in the past but we could at least agree on reality. I miss the mother I grew up with and wish I could have her back.

I can’t even do that. Fortunately, COVID gives me a good excuse. Politics is nearly inevitable, as pretty much my whole family is pretty RW, and they will discuss these issues with or without me. I’m forced to either just stay quiet and not object to their misinformation and outright lies, or speak up, and then _I’m_ the one that’s being disruptive.

For quite some time, my tactic was simply to leave anytime politics came up, and that kinda worked, but I’m not sure what I should do in a situation like my mother and sister discussing something, certainly within earshot and intended for me to overhear, but I’m not actually part of the discussion.

They are trolls, and they want to troll the libruls, even if the librul in question is their son/brother.

It’s gotten worse, but I also remember rants during the Clinton years, I have vividly etched in my memory my mother screaming that the Clintons had Vince Foster killed. But, in a more recent discussion, she claimed that BLM had no reason to be rioting, as only 10 black men were killed by police last year. (Obviously, that sentence is problematic in many ways, no need to unpack it.)

I dunno that I miss them that much. As I straight up told my dad once, if we weren’t family, I seriously doubt that we’d be friends.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/749 "2021-02-16T17:29:18Z")

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Meanwhile…

Senator Ron Johnson (Idiot - Wis.) is casting doubt on whether there really was an “armed insurrection” on January 6th:

> [@](#):
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> Two days after members of the U.S. Senate acquitted former President Donald Trump on a charge of inciting the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, Wisconsin’s senior senator is questioning whether an armed insurrection even occurred.
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> U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson toured the state’s airwaves on Monday making the claim, despite video footage and photos of the attack showing participants erecting gallows, deploying pepper spray strong enough to repel bears, carrying zip ties, hurling a fire extinguisher, using baseball bats to smash windows, and throwing flags like spears at police officers.
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> “This didn’t seem like an armed insurrection to me,” the Oshkosh Republican said in an interview on WISN-AM with conservative talk radio show host Jay Weber, after condemning the events at the U.S. Capitol that day.
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> “I mean ‘armed,’ when you hear ‘armed,’ don’t you think of firearms? Here’s the questions I would have liked to ask. How many firearms were confiscated? How many shots were fired? I’m only aware of one and I’ll defend that law enforcement officer for taking that shot. It was a tragedy, OK? But I think there was only one.”

> **[Ron Johnson on Jan. 6 Capitol attack: 'This didn’t seem like an armed...](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/15/ron-johnson-questions-whether-armed-insurrection-occurred-capitol/6753376002/)**
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> "This didn’t seem like an armed insurrection to me," Johnson said in a radio interview Monday.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/750 "2021-02-16T17:42:11Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> It’s gotten worse, but I also remember rants during the Clinton years, I have vividly etched in my memory my mother screaming that the Clintons had Vince Foster killed.

One of my last acts on FB was unfriending an idiot who was blithering about BLM and then posting daily bulletins from his local sheriff’s office – always black suspects of course. Even though there were plenty of white ones on their home page, it was always black suspects who were the only ones worthy of appearing on his wall with comments like “getto (sic) thug!” underneath.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/751 "2021-02-16T17:44:18Z")

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These were basically good people, workin’ class white folk. Hell they coulda been applyin for internships for all we know!

Ron Johnson is quickly ascending to the top of the all-time shittiest people in the history of this republic, with Lindsay Graham not too far behind and Cocaine Mitch not too far ahead.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/752 "2021-02-16T17:48:52Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Ron Johnson is quickly ascending to the top of the all-time shittiest people in the history of this republic, with Lindsay Graham not too far behind and Cocaine Mitch not too far ahead.

In the same interview, he falls back on the Republican talking point of drawing parallels between Jan 6 and the BLM protests of the summer. Because if a Democrat failed to denounce violence in any protest ever (even though, they all did) they therefore would be hypocritical to object to an armed seditious attack on the Capitol, the election, the Constitution and democracy itself.

Fuck the whole lot. They can’t go the way of the Whigs fast enough.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/753 "2021-02-16T20:56:51Z")

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> [@"Senator Ron Johnson (Idiot - Wis.)](#):
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> “I mean ‘armed,’ when you hear ‘armed,’ don’t you think of firearms? Here’s the questions I would have liked to ask. How many firearms were confiscated? How many shots were fired?"

Was Julius Caesar _really_ assassinated? I mean when you hear ‘assassination’ don’t you think of firearms? Did Brutus even own a gun?

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/754 "2021-02-17T00:57:56Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Meanwhile…
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> Senator Ron Johnson (Idiot - Wis.) is casting doubt on whether there really was an “armed insurrection” on January 6th:
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> > [@](#):
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> > Two days after members of the U.S. Senate acquitted former President Donald Trump on a charge of inciting the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, Wisconsin’s senior senator is questioning whether an armed insurrection even occurred.  
> > … “I mean ‘armed,’ when you hear ‘armed,’ don’t you think of firearms? Here’s the questions I would have liked to ask. How many firearms were confiscated? How many shots were fired? I’m only aware of one and I’ll defend that law enforcement officer for taking that shot. It was a tragedy, OK? But I think there was only one.”

Brian Williams got off a good one in response to Johnson’s remarks:

> <https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1361659907582353410>

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/755 "2021-02-17T02:34:24Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Was Julius Caesar _really_ assassinated? I mean when you hear ‘assassination’ don’t you think of firearms? Did Brutus even own a gun?

Cain slew Abel with an Uzi.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/756 "2021-02-17T02:35:38Z")

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Well, it is the Chosen weapon of the Chosen people.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/757 "2021-02-17T03:22:19Z")

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Good one! 👍🏼

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As someone who recently lost a lot of weight, and is still wearing his old clothes, I would like to know what the QAnon shaman was using to hold up his pants.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/759 "2021-02-17T15:42:43Z")

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Gorilla glue?

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/760 "2021-02-17T15:56:32Z")

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Post-Impeachment DJT has suffered yet another legal setback:

> **[Suit on Behalf of “Donard J. Trump” Dismissed – Lowering the Bar](https://www.loweringthebar.net/2021/02/suit-on-behalf-of-donard-j-trump-dismissed.html)**

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**Post date:** [February 22, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/761 "2021-02-22T23:04:32Z")

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Like _Scientific American_, in the issue just before the Presidential election _Analog_ magazine’s editor endorsed Biden over Trump citing the latter’s anti-science stance. It was far from the first political editorial nor was it even the first endorsement – John W. Campbell (in)famously endorsed George Wallace back in 1968, mainly in protest of the two-party system rather than any enthusiasm about the latter’s platform.

Predictably, in the March/April issue I received today are several letters sent in October and November saying politics is none of the magazine’s business, objecting to the editor calling them deplorable (he didn’t), and decrying the sudden socialist screed. A common theme was, “I have been a reader for X decades but this I cannot stand. Cancel my subscription forthwith.”

These would have been written in October and early November, long before the two month whine about a “stolen” election, never mind the events of January 6th and the subsequent second impeachment. I can’t help but wonder how many of them realize now that they’d been duped by the country’s greatest conman.

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