# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/61 "2021-02-09T20:20:59Z")
I think it is the make them all go to sleep with “water is wet” arguments. Also, ‘vote following what your red citizens tell you about Trump, please do represent even their lunacy.’ ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/62 "2021-02-09T20:22:18Z")
The people ON THE TRUMP FORUM are aghast at what a shitty job this guy’s doing. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/63 "2021-02-09T20:22:21Z")
I believe that mr castor is trying for the “y’all are the cool heads” of government defence. That the Congress impeached in the heat of the moment, and the cool heads of the senate can stop this trial. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/64 "2021-02-09T20:23:19Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sXE8LdXzeHM/maxresdefault.jpg "Get on with it! (Monty Python)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXE8LdXzeHM) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/65 "2021-02-09T20:25:14Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > the trial will just convince the crazies on the right that they were right A sheep baaing in a field will convince the crazies on the right that they were right. Anything that agrees with them will confirm their suspicions, anything that disagrees with them will even more so, and something completely unrelated is the nail in the coffin. They are crazies, as you even say, trying to mollify them, to act in a way that will rationalize their crazy is futile. So, forget about the crazies on the right, they are irrelevant, as they will be crazy no matter what you do. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/66 "2021-02-09T20:26:00Z")
“If this guy (Castor) was stuttering, he’d be the lawyer from My Cousin Vinny.” ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/67 "2021-02-09T20:31:16Z")
What trump forums? I wanna watch. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/68 "2021-02-09T20:32:08Z")
Castor now playing both the slippery slope and “you wouldn’t like the other side doing the same thing to your guy” cards. Hope Donald got this guy at a steep discount. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/69 "2021-02-09T20:33:56Z")
Professor @BrianKalt of Michigan State University, who is a member of these boards has published an article in Slate, stating that Trump’s lawyers are misusing his research on impeachability of ex-presidents. > **[Trump Claims My Research Supports His Case Against Impeachment. He’s Wrong.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/trump-late-impeachment-brief-research-wrong.html)** > > The brief is riddled with errors and misrepresentations. > In several places, they cited me as though I had concluded something when in fact I had concluded the opposite. … I said the exact opposite of the proposition for which they cited me. > Next, circling back, I saw a citation to my discussion of the Federalist Papers: … This was disingenuous. > And the citation to Madison? I thought it was odd for them to cite me citing Madison rather than just citing Madison directly. So what content had I added that supported their proposition? Here’s what I wrote: “Taken out of context, Madison’s statement that the President ‘is impeachable at any time during his continuance in office’ would seem to rule out late impeachment.” Then I explained why, taken in context, it did no such thing. … I could go on like this for longer than a Slate article allows, pointing out other errors, omissions, and misrepresentations ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/70 "2021-02-09T20:35:36Z")
Wow…name-dropping Eric Holder and the “Fast and Furious”? Is he going to talk about Solyndra next? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/71 "2021-02-09T20:38:07Z")
Castor made a mention about the prosecutors of the rioters are not implicating the former Cheeto in the charges, implying that the Cheeto is not being accused. Forgetting that several rioters already implicated Cheetolini (we were following him!) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/72 "2021-02-09T20:45:02Z")
Trump isn’t going to like this current argument that the American people looked at Trump’s conduct and chose Biden as a result. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/73 "2021-02-09T20:45:31Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Hope Donald got this guy at a steep discount. I was thinking he drew the short straw when the firm got the Trump defense contract. That or he’s the most junior partner in the firm. _When the law is against you, pound the facts. When the facts are against you, pound the law. When both the law the facts are against you, pound the table._ This guy isn’t even pounding the table. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/74 "2021-02-09T20:47:13Z")
I thought listening to the impeachment trial was going to stress me out. Boy was I wrong. This is comedy gold! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/75 "2021-02-09T20:49:55Z")
Trump’s impeachment lawyer just told the Democrats that they should go arrest Trump. Cool. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/76 "2021-02-09T20:50:36Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > The only thing you will get Republicans to say ‘on the record’ is that the impeachment of a private citizen is unconstitutional, That, actually, might be a real defense. Most experts say it is Constitutional, but some disagree. However, Moscow Mitch’s idea of “well sure, lets do a trial, but right after the recess” then “nope, sorry, too late!!” has too much _Lucy and the Football_ thing going. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/77 "2021-02-09T20:51:09Z")
So he’s arguing that Trump should stand a regular trial? I could get behind that – after the impeachment’s conviction. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/78 "2021-02-09T20:53:47Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Castor now playing both the slippery slope and “you wouldn’t like the other side doing the same thing to your guy” cards. You mean… > [@Shoeless](#): > > Benghazi! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/79 "2021-02-09T20:54:49Z")
From Maggie Haberman, NY Times: > Alan Dershowitz, who was key in arguing in defense of Trump during the first impeachment trial, just said of Castor while speaking on Newsmax, “I have no idea what he’s doing.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/80 "2021-02-09T20:55:40Z")
So the defence is, if the election doesn’t go your way, throwing an insurrection is okay fine? This fellow is a bit more animated. I believe we have the shoe pounding trump lawyer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=5)