# Trump Impeachment II: Insurrection Boogaloo **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 8, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463 "2021-02-08T18:18:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/121 "2021-02-09T22:26:14Z")
Yes, I remembered a bit ago that there is a prayer when drinking water. when I saw him do it again, I flashed on a friend doing a hand cover during a quick blessing. I would imagine that would mystify quite a few people watching. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/122 "2021-02-09T22:26:47Z")
Interesting. I never heard that one. BTW, for those following along, in case it’s not obvious [kippah and yarmulke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippah) are the same thing. The former is Hebrew, the latter, Yiddish. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/123 "2021-02-09T22:28:20Z")
> **[Democrats seek rule change to formally allow hijabs, yarmulkes on House floor](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-seek-rule-change-formally-allow-hijabs-yarmulkes-house-floor-n938056)** > > The 1837 ban on covered heads hasn't been enforced on religious headwear in recent times, but the proposed amendment would create an explicit exemption. _In recent years, the rule hasn’t been enforced to preclude members, staff or religious leaders from wearing head coverings on the floor, but the victory of Minnesota Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, a Muslim who wears a headscarf, has put a spotlight on its continued existence._ So, he likely could have got away with a small, modest one. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/124 "2021-02-09T22:37:55Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > Castor now playing both the slippery slope and “you wouldn’t like the other side doing the same thing to your guy” cards. And the correct rebuttal to that is: “Yes, if a Democratic President called for insurrection, I would want him removed from office. If five people died becauwe of the call for insurrection by a Democratic President, I would want him removed from office. If a Democratic President urged his vice-president to throw aside the votes of the people, I would want him removed from office.” Just keep repeating the charges and say that it’s impeachable no matter who does it. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/125 "2021-02-09T22:41:34Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _In recent years, the rule hasn’t been enforced to preclude members, staff or religious leaders from wearing head coverings on the floor, but the victory of Minnesota Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, a Muslim who wears a headscarf, has put a spotlight on its continued existence._ > > So, he likely could have got away with a small, modest one. Though, that article is about the House; the Senate sets its own rules, and is often stodgier about its rules. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/126 "2021-02-09T22:42:22Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > If that 14 minute video wasn’t enough evidence from the get go, I’m worried that this is a huge waste of time. Nobody thought that Republican toadie minds would be changed by anything. That’s not the point of this exercise. The point is to get irrefutable evidence out there in public, and MAKE the Republican toadies vote in favor of incitement to insurrection. Let’s face it. It’s obvious that Trump could have taken the stand, admitted to trying to take over the government by sending his mob to kill the very senators who are in the room. He could have followed this up by biting the head off a live bat and shooting a small child, and the Toads would vote to aquit. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/127 "2021-02-09T22:48:31Z")
One “talking head” called the defence team the law firm of meandering and fury. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/128 "2021-02-09T22:52:36Z")
Is this the Schadenfreude thread…? > ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/129 "2021-02-09T22:58:41Z")
Agreed. Hey, for every acquittal vote that’s cast the GOP Sen hears a cash register ring (or they hope to) and get one of those campaign donation checks from that VERY generous Trump foundation. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/130 "2021-02-09T23:00:15Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Schoen’s got some serious dry mouth going on. He’s licking his lips every 2.3 seconds… And he held on to his hair every time he takes a drink. Was it sliding off? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/131 "2021-02-09T23:00:55Z")
Hopefully this will force him to testify! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/132 "2021-02-09T23:03:14Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > And he held on to his hair every time he takes a drink. Was it sliding off? Covered here: > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > It is a Jewish thing, and it has to do with the fact that he wasn’t wearing a yarmulke. Apparently, it has to do with the rule that your head has to be covered when you eat or drink. So every time he took a sip of water ( and he took a _ **lot** _ of sips), he was required to cover his head with his hand. > [@rocking\_chair](#): > > Yes, I remembered a bit ago that there is a prayer when drinking water. when I saw him do it again, I flashed on a friend doing a hand cover during a quick blessing. * * * > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Let’s face it. It’s obvious that Trump could have taken the stand, admitted to trying to take over the government by sending his mob to kill the very senators who are in the room. He could have followed this up by biting the head off a live bat and shooting a small child, and the Toads would vote to aquit. Or biting the head off a live child. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/133 "2021-02-09T23:04:01Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Schoen also keeps trying to argue this as if it is a criminal matter and the “Defendant” is entitled to all the same protections under the law as a criminal defendant. That’s disingenuous as hell. Trump will not be deprived of his “life or liberty.” Only deprived of running for office again. He also was claiming that he didn’t get to have a lawyer and present witnesses at the impeachment hearing. The impeachment hearing was not a trial, it was like a grand jury hearing. THIS is the trial. Present your witnesses. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/134 "2021-02-09T23:04:08Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Thanks. I’m Jewish but I’ve never seen anyone doing that. But I’m not much of a Jew and don’t think I’ve ever been anywhere that restricts people wearing a religious head covering. I would think the “hats” rule wouldn’t apply to a kippah, which would fall under free exercise of religion. I wouldn’t expect a Sikh to be required to remove his turban, either, for much the same reason. But hey, I’m not an expert on this sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/135 "2021-02-09T23:05:39Z")
It would be nice if he had a stroke. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/136 "2021-02-09T23:06:21Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > He could have followed this up by biting the head off a live bat and shooting a small child, and the Toads would vote to aquit. I don’t think that’s quite true. If he shot their _own_ child, they might abstain instead. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/137 "2021-02-09T23:08:21Z")
The problem is, these sorts of distortions work well on their base. They know how ignorant and gullible they are, so they stick with the dishonest tactic. Republicans have become the party of only victimhood and grievance. They offer no plans. They offer no solutions. If you don’t get your way, be a bully, liar and cheat. Deny reality. That’s what they stand for. Nothing else. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/138 "2021-02-09T23:10:28Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Is this the Schadenfreude thread…? > > [https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1359272249153499142](https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1359272249153499142) This is a situation where I actually wish Trump still had the Twitter, so he could attack his own impeachment lawyer _during the live presentation in progress_ and fill in the argument he actually wants the guy to represent on his behalf. Because he’s too stupid to understand this wouldn’t help him. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/139 "2021-02-09T23:10:50Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I would think the “hats” rule wouldn’t apply to a kippah, which would fall under free exercise of religion. I wouldn’t expect a Sikh to be required to remove his turban, either, for much the same reason. > > But hey, I’m not an expert on this sort of thing. In the Canadian House of Commons, the tradition was that a member could wear a hat in the chabmer, but if they stood to address teh Speaker, they had to do so “uncovered” , i.e. hat off. It was in the Rules and everything. > [@](#): > > Until 1994, the Standing Orders did contain one rule respecting a dress code: when participating in any proceedings, Members were required to rise “uncovered”, that is, to remove their hats. The Speaker allowed Members to wear hats as long as they removed the head gear before rising to speak. See _Debates_ , March 17, 1971, p. 4338; June 20, 1983, pp. 26564‑6; June 3, 1992, pp. 11348‑9. However, since Members are no longer in the habit of wearing hats in the Chamber, this aspect of the Standing Order had become anachronistic and was finally deleted in June 1994. Nowadays, it’s not uncommon to have members who wear turbans in the chamber. They don’t take them off when they are speaking, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463/140 "2021-02-09T23:23:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > This is a situation where I actually wish Trump still had the Twitter, so he could attack his own impeachment lawyer _during the live presentation in progress_ and fill in the argument he actually wants the guy to represent on his behalf. It reminds me of the Red Dwarf episode where Kryten is attempting to defend Rimmer in court by, basically, saying he’s an idiot and so stupid he can’t be held responsible for his actions and Rimmer objects to Kryten… at which point Kryten says “A man so stupid he objects to his own defense counsel” Ah, here it is… the “so stupid” thing kicks in around 1:20 [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jMi2a6m90f8/maxresdefault.jpg "The Trial | Red Dwarf | BBC Comedy Greats") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMi2a6m90f8) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-impeachment-ii-insurrection-boogaloo/932463.md?page=8)