# Trump: In 4 years we’ll have it fixed. You won’t have to vote

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**Created:** [July 27, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870 "2024-07-27T23:27:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
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I know anything out of his mouth shouldn’t be news but this was a little shocking. He seems to imply he will fix it where voting will not be an option in 4 years.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/duls1Cr1Lyo/hqdefault.jpg "'You won’t have to vote anymore' if he is elected, Donald Trump tells crowd") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duls1Cr1Lyo)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/2 "2024-07-27T23:29:53Z")

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Like I said in another thread, MAGAs are screaming “context,” but they have obviously never had the benefit of the doubt from me.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
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Christians, please listen to the man.  
In four years, if he gets in, _he won’t need you_.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Christians, please listen to the man.  
> In four years, if he gets in, _he won’t need you_.

I love _you_ Christians.

He even admits he’s not one of them but they won’t listen.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/5 "2024-07-27T23:36:40Z")

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The flavor of Christianity that Trump provides is all they need. By definition Trump can’t do unchristian things to them, so why would they be worried?

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
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Besides, Christianity and democracy aren’t really that compatible. Christianity by the book requires kings with with the power to wield the power of God.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/7 "2024-07-27T23:43:15Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Like I said in another thread, MAGAs are screaming “context,” but they have obviously never had the benefit of the doubt from me.

How about some “context”:

> _Adolf Hitler never won a majority in a free and open national election. He never received more than 37% of the vote in a free and open national election, but he argued that 37% represented 75% of 51%, and demanded political power. It was the political calculus by which the Nazi leader disabled, then dismantled, the Weimar Republic. Hitler exploited his 37% to gridlock legislative processes, to cudgel or crush the political opposition, and ultimately to undermine the country’s democratic structures. **When Hitler had vowed in court, in September 1930, to destroy democracy through the democratic process, a judge asked, “So, only through constitutional means?” Hitler replied crisply, “Jawohl.”** _
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> _Hitler exercised his constitutional right to free speech and freedom of assembly to hold rallies across the country and spew invective in all directions—against Bolsheviks, social democrats, immigrants, Jews, even fellow rightwing nationalists. He chided the ruling elites. If God had intended aristocrats to run the country, Hitler said at one rally in fall 1932, “we’d all have been born with monocles.” He vowed to make Germany great again. He promised a Third Reich bigger and better than the previous two._

— [_Takeover: Hitler’s Final Rise to Power_, Timothy W. Ryback, Penguin Random House](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/727483/takeover-by-timothy-w-ryback/)

Stranger

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**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/8 "2024-07-27T23:44:14Z")

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Trump sees Harris getting too much attention and decided to get some himself.

The statement is deliberately ambiguous. To Trump opponents, he’s planning to end democracy. To supporters, he’s saying that they will have won the culture wars so thoroughly that the next election will be unimportant.

Does my last sentence make sense? Not to me, but I’m voting for Harris.

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> I know anything out of his mouth shouldn’t be news but this was a little shocking. He seems to imply he will fix it where voting will not be an option in 4 years.

I’m not sure what he _meant_ to say but it doesn’t sound good.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/10 "2024-07-27T23:52:56Z")

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This sickens me.

I keep thinking, WWJD?

You Cristian people better stand up and scream _NO!_ at him.  
He will eliminate you about 3 seconds after he gets the opportunity. Dictators do not like organized groups of people who may disagree or cannot follow/toe his line.  
I see little yellow armbands with crosses. Church attendance highly regulated.  
Pastors who speak out arrested and jailed.  
Yep, you Christians better think long and hard before you put that idiot back in office with the power the SCotUS has given him.

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I’m getting deja vu on this. I’m sure Trump had already said this a few weeks ago.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> To supporters, he’s saying that they will have won the culture wars so thoroughly that the next election will be unimportant.

To be fair, which I do because I’m a better person than Trump, I think it’s clear that he was indeed saying this, telling the fundamentalists who don’t vote, according to him, to just vote this one time and he’ll push through everything they want so that they don’t have to make the effort again.

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Isn’t giving him the benefit of the doubt is what happened the last time he won?

I don’t trust him to do anything.  
I’m gonna listen to him babble. It tells more of his deception.

No one thought he could do what he’s gotten away with, so far. But he has. He’s evil.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/13 "2024-07-28T00:03:32Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> MAGAs are screaming “context,”

All the context points towards this being him saying the quiet part out loud. When he said he should get a third term, when he said we should try appointing a president for life, all of the voter suppression he and his party supports, etc. There’s no context that makes this better, only worse.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
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By making this comment, did Trump intentionally confirm his intention to dismantle democracy in the United States by a set date? Maybe, maybe not.

Will he do it anyway? Yes.

And if he is being misinterpreted, can he offer an explanation that makes _any kind_ of sense? I was born at night… but it wasn’t last night.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/15 "2024-07-28T00:10:15Z")

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I’ll never in my life comprehend how it is that 50% of voters think Trump is the choice.

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At this point I think they’re either fools or actively and knowingly support evil.

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I literally feel like I’m in the 1930s watching the ascension of Hitler. The consequences of this demagogue winning the next election are unthinkable. I hope and trust that President Biden was right, that the American people are better than this.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/18 "2024-07-28T00:21:32Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> By making this comment, did Trump intentionally confirm his intention to dismantle democracy in the United States by a set date?

He confirmed his intention to to push the national conversation away from Harris, please his base, and own the libs.

Modern authoritarians like elections. Free and fair, no. But they like elections. Trump is no more planning to prevent elections in 2028 than he is planning to end the Russo-Ukrainian War before inauguration day.

Trump wants swing voters ([14 percent of us in this large sample](https://www.dataforprogress.org/insights/2024/5/30/measuring-the-swing-evaluating-the-key-voters-of-2024)) to think Harris cares more about slamming himself than improving the economy.

The last sentence is not meant to suggest anyone stop criticizing DJT. I do not know the best messaging for Democrats. I’m just saying what Trump is trying to pull here.

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’ll never in my life comprehend how it is that 50% of voters think Trump is the choice.

I live in a red state, and if you watch Fox News all day and listen to christian conservative radio all night you start to believe everything he is saying, and they become completely brainwashed into thinking Trump is a great man who is under attack by an evil deep state consisting of liberal Democrats. That he is a victim, and if reelected will do everything in his power to make christian conservatives happy and liberals unhappy, which is exactly what red state voters want to hear.

When I watch Trump talking I see a con-man who if re-elected will never be held accountable for his illegal activities and will enrich himself and his family as much as he possibly can, for a as long as he possibly can.

My biggest concern is what happens if Trump loses the election again. His revenge will be swift and led by violent psychopaths who will try to install him as president no matter what, and it may become a blood bath.

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> When he said he should get a third term, when he said we should try appointing a president for life, all of the voter suppression he and his party supports, etc.

Remember when newsheads kept asking him if he’d respect the results of the election (both in 2016 and 2020) and he demurred…and then they opined that he was just being cagey because he was “not a typical politician” but that he certainly wouldn’t refuse to leave the White House or try to overturn an election. Ah, those were such halcyon times…

> [@bobot](#):
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> I’ll never in my life comprehend how it is that 50% of voters think Trump is the choice.

They have not, both times. And yet…here we are. For anyone who thinks that Congress, or “the courts”, or the Constitution will save us from demagoguery, think again.

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> The last sentence is not meant to suggest anyone stop criticizing DJT. I do not know the best messaging for Democrats. I’m just saying what Trump is trying to pull here.

The “best messaging for Democrats” is to focus on addressing the actual problems that swing voters are concerned about—real inflation, the screwed up employment market, health care costs and access, et cetera—and not spend their time reflexively responding to whatever word diarrhea is emitted from Trump’s food hole. And for Harris (and Congressional Democrats) to make real policy to address the same rather than just reiterating the previously unsatisfactory line about how Harris is a prosecutor and Trump is a felon. Show, don’t tell, that Trump is a fraud and a liar. It won’t convert his base but it at least gives red meat for undecided voters to actually chew on instead of slogans and character insults.

Stranger

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