# Trump: In 4 years we’ll have it fixed. You won’t have to vote **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 27, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870 "2024-07-27T23:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/121 "2024-07-29T00:42:15Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > I don’t really socialize with my co-workers but I did accept a FB follow with one, who is conservative. Based on her post, as related by you, she’s decided _not_ a conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/122 "2024-07-29T00:43:25Z")
I’m sorry, but I think he said he was a Christian. The lack of targeted thunderbolt afterwards only shores up my unbelief. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/123 "2024-07-29T00:44:46Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Have you seen the Christians wearing their Trump garb? They have crosses and statements prominently shown. And spewing the most vile filth and lies out of their trump-holes. And profess to be Christian? I’m not sure that’s what Jesus taught.🤔 As somebody (cannot remember who) said in another thread, today’s so-called “Trump Christians” would regard the Sermon on the Mount as “too woke.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/124 "2024-07-29T00:51:01Z")
> [@XOldiesJock](#): > > I’ve always felt his appeal comes down to this: He hates the same people you hate. I believe I (along with others) have poste that exact sentiment on the SDMB before. > [@XOldiesJock](#): > > Anything else is icing on the cake. Anything else doesn’t matter. The only thing the bigots care about is their bigotry being validated, in their eyes, by the melon felon. > [@jlh3rd](#): > > OMG…trump derange symptom much? > None of what you anti trumpers spout off is anywhere close to what will happen, and certainly not one kernel of truth. Just hate. In fact, it is Trump who is deranged. And hate is his one and only human emotion. > [@](#): > > He means he will get this country back on a constitutional rail, fix the fraud capable with mail-in voting which should not be allowed, and require ID’s to vote. The country’s last time on which it was almost not on a constitutional rail is when Trump instigated an actual armed attack on Congress. In case you’ve forgotten, that’s one branch of our constitutional government. Is there any evidence in his public statements, in his testimonies, in his life that he has ever meant anything at the moment other than what spews from his mouth? And let’s talk about mail-in voting for a moment. What do you have against me exercising my right to vote? I live overseas and am an American citizen. Mail-in voting is my only option. What do you have against our deployed military exercising their right to vote? Mail-in voting is their only option. What do you have against Trump exercising his right to vote? Don’t you remember he used mail-in voting? And the issue of requiring government-issued photo identification isn’t what you seem to think it is. It’s requiring it and _at the same time_ making it more difficult for certain demographics (minorities) to actually get said government-issued photo identification. It’s also the issue of the poll workers having too much power to deny someone their right to cast a vote because those poll workers will be inundated with a plethora of government-issued photo identification. > [@](#): > > He wants more votes from us christians as the last election showed the turnout wasn’t great. What? According to the [Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/), > The elections of 2018, 2020 and 2022 were three of [the highest-turnout U.S. elections](https://www.electproject.org/election-data/voter-turnout-data) of their respective types in decades. About two-thirds (66%) of the voting-eligible population turned out for the 2020 presidential election – the highest rate for any national election since 1900. How is that not great? Just like “fake” does not mean “facts Trump does not like”, “great” does not only mean “voted for Trump”. And what evidence do you have Christians did not vote for Biden? > [@](#): > > Got it? So if elected he will use congress and constitutional law to bring back proper voting guidelines. Just like he did when he lost the 2020 election, right? > [@](#): > > By doing that he his jokingly saying christians won’t have to worry about voting In his entire life, he has told exactly zero jokes. The only time he ever says he told a joke is when he is finally faced with consequences for his comments and they’re so obviously bad for him that even he can see that. > [@](#): > > …jeez…are ya’ll that dense. Did this thread start out in The BBQ Pit? Oh, and it’s spelled _y’all_. > [@](#): > > Oh, and thanks to your side’s constant false “hitler” label, your vitriol helped fuel the death of a great family man and injuries to 3 others! > Your the “hitler”. How is it false? He’s been using Hitler’s playbook and has been quoting Hitler. And wasn’t the guy who took a shot at Trump on the Republican side? p.s. It’s _you’re_. And even scum like Hitler and Trump get their family names capitalized in such languages as English and Russian, just to name two. > [@jlh3rd](#): > > do you even pay attention? > He’s not a dictator. From his own mouth, he told the country he will be a dictator. That is his goal. See my post just above about him and joking. > [@](#): > > He can’t just make everything right, he has to work through congress for laws to be passed or projects to accomplish. I’d venture to say the vast majority of the SDMB posters are fully aware of that. We have four years of evidence that Trump is not. That evidence slapped the country in the face, so to speak, on January 6, 2021. > [@](#): > > He spent his first term just pushing against those , including rinos, who didn’t want him in. Give me a break. He spent his term grifting, rewarding unqualified family members with top government jobs, golfing, spreading conspiracy nonsense, and thus causing, what was it, over a million Americans’ deaths. > [@](#): > > If you can’t see what he accomplished even with all those odds against him, you’re beyond help. > Open your eyes. My eyes are open. I’m amenable. What, exactly, did he accomplish? > [@jlh3rd](#): > > Well, I come across this stuff, these lies, and will admit that it is an example of the vocal minority, I got it. But sometimes I have to step in. I don’t care how it ends. > I’ll bet real christians, not straight dope board posers, know exactly what he meant. What is your evidence that those of us here who identify as Christian are not, in fact, Christian. > [@SuntanLotion](#): > > You did raise a point but minds are closed. What valid point did that poster raise? > [@dolphinboy](#): > > I’m not sure how someone can be convinced that if Trump loses, and once again claims it was a rigged election, that there won’t be another insurrection attempt, perhaps this time better armed and coordinated then the last one. Look at the damage they did when they weren’t well armed or coordinated. > > I agree that this time around the government will be better prepared for whatever may happen, but with wealthy people like Elon Musk supporting Trump it’s hard to predict what could happen under the right circumstances. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. No kidding! My worry is the next time around, the insurrection will not be localized to the federal Capitol building. It will be at state capitols. > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Yup. He thinks the VP, entirely on their own, can cancel the results of a nationwide election. > > Or, more likely, he wants to think so, and thinks if he says it often and loudly enough he can get enough people to believe him. Exactly right. He also relies on, as I’ve said years ago here, that he believes the presidet is just like the Pharaoh in _The Ten Commandments_ (“So shall it be written; so shall it be done!”). He also relies on his followers believing everything he says. Sadly, he now has some of his followers, apparently, on the SCOSA. > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > TFG has taken _every conceivable position_ on _every possible issue_. He has both affirmed _and_ disavowed every position he’s ever held. He was simultaneously both deadly serious _and_ totally kidding. And, IIRC, he just endorsed two different peopole for the same elected office. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Donald Trump is never wrong. We know this is true because Donald Trump said it. And everything Donald Trump says is true. Because Donald Trump is never wrong. Norman! Coordinate! > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > This why Trump’s second term would be a lot worse than his first term. This time the crime will be organized. [You just reminded me of this _Pearls Before Swine_ strip.](https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/07/24) (The link goes to GoComics.) > [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > > [@dolphinboy](#): > > > > My biggest concern is what happens if Trump loses the election again. His revenge will be swift and led by violent psychopaths who will try to install him as president no matter what, and it may become a blood bath. > > I’ll ask you directly then, do you think it would be better for the country if Trump wins? Yes or no? Of course it will be better for the country if Trump loses. But I also fear his supporters will get triggered by his inane pronouncements and go for Insurrection Mark 2. > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > The notion might be slightly more palatable if he would name his successor ahead of time. Does he think he’s going to live forever? He won’t, despite what Ronnie Johnson says. _Jackson_. The name’s _Ronnie Jackson_. At least it is according to Trump. > [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Except if Trump is elected, that will be his second term. He seems to be implicitly stating he will violate the 22nd amendment and hang around after that. Dollars to donuts at least one of his hangers-on has already told him that amendment means “two times in a row”. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/125 "2024-07-29T00:57:38Z")
_You’ve got to be taught, before it’s too late_ _Before you’re six or seven or eight_ _To hate all the people your relatives hate_ _You’ve got to be carefully taught._ ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/126 "2024-07-29T00:58:57Z")
I saw a quote somewhere from someone a minister I think. I know this is very vague, but it was a few months ago. The minister did his sermon that day on the sermon on the mount. One of the flock caught the minister afterwards and commented that all that sermon on the mount stuff was, “weak.” Chistians indeed. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/127 "2024-07-29T01:02:14Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I wondered about that line myself. Does he say “I am no Christian”, or “I am a Christian”? I’ve listened to it now a dozen times, including in slow motion. I’m pretty certain he’s trying to say “I’m a Christian”, but he slurs the “I’m a”, the way he’s been mangling lots of words lately. I didn’t think so at first, but if you play it at .75 speed you can hear it. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/128 "2024-07-29T01:24:43Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I wondered about that line myself. Does he say “I am no Christian”, or “I am a Christian”? Have we ruled out the possibility that he said “I am a Jelly doughnut!”? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/129 "2024-07-29T01:26:27Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I saw a quote somewhere from someone a minister I think. I know this is very vague, but it was a few months ago. The minister did his sermon that day on the sermon on the mount. One of the flock caught the minister afterwards and commented that all that sermon on the mount stuff was, “weak.” [Here you go.](https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity) ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/130 "2024-07-29T01:29:10Z")
[On point quote:](https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak) > Moore told [NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity) in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” > > “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/131 "2024-07-29T01:44:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > What is your evidence that those of us here who identify as Christian are not, in fact, Christian. I’d like to hear that poster’s (the one to whom you replied) definition of _Christian_. Is it Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Baptist, Fundamentalist, Anglican, Greek Orthodox, Dutch Reformed, Amish, Hutterite, Mennonite, Mormon, Copt, Evangelical, Lutheran, Pentacostalist, Ukranian Catholic, Russian Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox … ? There are so many flavours of Christianity. I wonder which one that poster meant when he or she said _Christian_. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/132 "2024-07-29T01:53:08Z")
Thank you that is the very thing I was trying to remember. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/133 "2024-07-29T02:12:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And hate is his one and only human emotion Come on, you’ve got to give the man more credit than that: (1) [vainglory](https://www.britannica.com/topic/pride-deadly-sin), or [pride](https://www.britannica.com/topic/pride-human-behavior), (2) [greed](https://www.britannica.com/topic/greed), or covetousness, (3) [lust](https://www.britannica.com/topic/lust-deadly-sin), or inordinate or illicit sexual desire, (4) [envy](https://www.britannica.com/topic/envy), (5) [gluttony](https://www.britannica.com/topic/gluttony), which is usually understood to include drunkenness, (6) [wrath](https://www.britannica.com/topic/wrath), or anger, and (7) [sloth](https://www.britannica.com/topic/sloth-behaviour). By my counting he gets a distinction against Tom Aquinas’s criteria. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/134 "2024-07-29T02:40:07Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > 57% of White Protestants who are _not_ evangelical Note that first word. 77% of _black_ protestants supported Biden. If you add in Hispanics only about half of US Catholics support trump. > [@Chronos](#): > > That’s mostly driven by whiteness, not by Christianity. Self-identified non-Christians are uncommon enough in this country that there can’t be significant differences in trends between Christians and the country as a whole (or between white Christians and whites in the country as a whole, etc.). Right. about 70% of all Americans say they are Christian. [https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/](https://www.prri.org/research/2020-census-of-american-religion/) Only about 14% are white evangelical Christian. America has a LOT of “nones” - over 20%, But only 45 claim to be atheists. > [@Spoons](#): > > As somebody (cannot remember who) said in another thread, today’s so-called “Trump Christians” would regard the Sermon on the Mount as “too woke.” Yep. And that “love thy neighbor” stuff would be right out. > [@Monty](#): > > And let’s talk about mail-in voting for a moment. What do you have against me exercising my right to vote? trump found out that a small majority of write in voters supported the Dems. Oddly when Governor, Reagan supported mail in voting. > [@Monty](#): > > And even scum like Hitler and Trump get their family names capitalized I refuse to capitalize trumps name. I wont stoop to organe shit gibbon, but that is my way of saying he is not important. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Have we ruled out the possibility that he said “I am a Jelly doughnut!”? No, it could have been- _I ate a jelly donut._ > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.” Yep, the Evangelicals are no longer Christians. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/135 "2024-07-29T02:55:09Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Hey, Trump supporters, good news! If you think voting is so terrible, you don’t even need to wait four years. You can just not vote, right now! Don’t listen to those liberal tricks! You go out there and vote for America! Write it on your calendar to remind yourself. It’s Friday, November 8. If you wait and vote in person you’re entitled to a three day weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/136 "2024-07-29T03:00:26Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That’s mostly driven by whiteness, not by Christianity. Self-identified non-Christians are uncommon enough in this country that there can’t be significant differences in trends between Christians and the country as a whole (or between white Christians and whites in the country as a whole, etc.). [NPR: “When Americans are asked to check a box indicating their religious affiliation, 28% now check ‘none.’”](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s) This isn’t to say that there aren’t plenty of Trump supporters who are non-religious but Trump has a very strong pull among the Evangelical Christian community, and particularly among “Christian Nationalists”, i.e. those people who believe that (their interpretation of) Christian mores and values should be codified in US law. There is a backlash among certain Evangelical groups who recognize (correctly) that Trump is neither an upholder of Christian values nor their interpretation of a prophet or Anti-Christ, but by and large Evangelical voters are strongly behind Trump, particularly since the Supreme Court justices that he nominated uniformly voted to overturn _Roe v. Wade_, which has been their primary political touchstone for five decades. “White Christianity”—as taken to be Fundamentalist or white Evangelical Christian movements—are strongly in the GOP and now Trump camp, and among these groups there is an impetus to get out the vote particularly for the 2024 election. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/137 "2024-07-29T04:11:15Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > NPR: “When Americans are asked to check a box indicating their religious affiliation, 28% now check ‘none.’” Note quite, they made a bad headline. The actual facts are- _Religiously unaffiliated people now make up 28% of U.S. adults,_…"_Most Nones believe in God or another higher power, but very few attend any kind of religious service."_ Many Christians or deists dont like organized religion, but that is not the same as having no faith. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > “White Christianity”—as taken to be Fundamentalist or white Evangelical Christian movements That is a poor way to take it- less than 60% of Non-evangelicals voted for trump. Lots of white christians voted for Biden- altho a few more voted for trump. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > There is a backlash among certain Evangelical groups who recognize (correctly) that Trump is neither an upholder of Christian values Very true. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/138 "2024-07-29T04:46:28Z")
A majority of Christians support Trump, even when you include all denominations and races. There are more than enough white Christian Trump voters that the small number of Black and Hispanic Christians is too small too matter. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/139 "2024-07-29T04:47:51Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I refuse to capitalize trumps name. I wont stoop to organe shit gibbon, but that is my way of saying he is not important Tonight I saw him referred to as prima donnie. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870/140 "2024-07-29T04:54:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > > > Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.” > > Yep, the Evangelicals are no longer Christians. They are Trumpians. It’s a new religious off-shoot. I’m very serious [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-in-4-years-we-ll-have-it-fixed-you-won-t-have-to-vote/1004870.md?page=8)