# Trump indicted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/232 "2023-03-31T17:21:06Z")
All politics is local. > Trump became [the first man from Queens to be impeached in 2019](https://queenseagle.com/all/2019/12/19/queens-man-impeached). Two years later, [he became the first man from Queens to be impeached twice](https://queenseagle.com/all/queens-man-impeached-again). 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/233 "2023-03-31T17:25:50Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I like this form of coverage. Along similar lines… > **[Extra from Home Alone 2 Found Guilty of Fraud — The Shovel](https://theshovel.com.au/2024/05/31/breaking-extra-from-home-alone-2-arrested/)** > > An un-named extra in the 1992 film Home Alone 2 has been found guilty by a New York jury of falsifying business documents. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/234 "2023-03-31T17:29:19Z")
Question about DeSantis’s potential refusal to extradite Trump. We know the Constitution requires that he do so and that he has no authority to ignore it. But assume he does anyway. We’ve talked about what would happen to Trump in that scenario. Are there any legal consequences for DeSantis? Could the DOJ charge him with aiding a fugitive or something? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/235 "2023-03-31T17:30:28Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > The Feds aren’t going to be deterred by a rogue governor with no authority to interfere with the lawful execution of a warrant. Would that be US Marshalls, or would it be a different agency? I think of the Marshalls as they are usually what I think of when I think of chasing fugitives across state lines. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/236 "2023-03-31T17:31:28Z")
Looks to be Tuesday afternoon for the arraignment: > [@](#): > > (Bloomberg) – Donald Trump will be arraigned in the criminal case against him on Tuesday afternoon following his indictment Thursday, according to a person familiar with the matter. > > The former president will hear the charges brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and will enter a plea of not guilty at a hearing at the New York State Supreme courthouse in lower Manhattan on Tuesday at 2:15, said the person, who asked not to be identified discussing details that haven’t yet been announced. [https://l.smartnews.com/p-fQULt/qvFsLz](https://l.smartnews.com/p-fQULt/qvFsLz) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/237 "2023-03-31T17:32:16Z")
With respect to the Feds, I believe the FBI would be the primary law enforcement arm to facilitate an arrest. He will probably be given the same opportunity/courtesy to surrender on the warrants as Manhattan has granted, provided he follows through with surrendering to Manhattan. If he doesn’t, well… ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/238 "2023-03-31T17:33:20Z")
Interesting question. What happens when government officials fail to perform their Constitutionally required duties and obligations. Let’s ask Mitch McConnell. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/239 "2023-03-31T17:33:38Z")
The Twitter link above includes, “Congratulations to Donald Trump for winning a majority of votes!” ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/240 "2023-03-31T17:35:07Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > Let’s ask Mitch McConnell Bill Barr isn’t running the DOJ anymore, so I have a little hope! ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/241 "2023-03-31T17:40:37Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > > “I never thought they’d lock HIM up,” sobbed a distraught member of the Lock Her Up Party. > > Props to [Betty Cracker of the Balloon Juice blog](https://balloon-juice.com/2023/03/31/friday-morning-open-thread-let-us-savor-2/?updated=1680278371#comment-8803120) for this one! That’s just excellent. Second time this thread has made me laugh out loud. j ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/242 "2023-03-31T17:51:35Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Question about DeSantis’s potential refusal to extradite Trump. I’ve seen this idea floated, but I can’t see it happening, either. He stated he won’t help with the extradition effort. But there’s a wide gap between not helping and actively putting up roadblocks to extradition. The last thing he said about that was the state of Florida would not intervene. That works both ways. To my mind, he won’t stand in the way of anything, so he will still honestly be able to say he did not provide any aid towards it. It’s Politico Speak 101 and people, especially his base, fall for it every day. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/243 "2023-03-31T17:54:27Z")
IA(very definitely)NAL, but my guess is that Governor Hochul of NY, as “the executive Authority of the State from which [Trump] fled,” could sue Florida in Federal court to compel Florida to deliver him up, in the wording of Article IV. This case would go directly to the Supreme Court, I believe: Article III says that if a state is a party to a case, SCOTUS has original jurisdiction. _Presumably_ even the current Supreme Court could not ignore the direct wording of the Constitution, and would hold DeSantis in contempt if he failed to deliver Trump to the hands of New York state. But given the current SCOTUS, ‘presumably’ is doing some heavy lifting there. My hope is that even hacks like Alito and Kavanaugh would realize that not forcing DeSantis to hand him over would further erode the Court’s authority, and it’s getting pretty brittle these days. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/244 "2023-03-31T18:04:00Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > We’ll need a new Schoolhouse Rocks song, “It’s Constitutional Crisis Time!” _Aw! you screwed the wrong lay! Darn! you pissed off the DA! Hooray! I’m for the other team!_ > [@Velocity](#): > > DeSantis can’t NOT realize that getting his main Republican rival locked up clears out his path to the primary nomination much more easily. You have to get behind someone before you can stab them in the back. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/245 "2023-03-31T18:05:14Z")
Good advice. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/246 "2023-03-31T18:08:12Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > We’ll need a new Schoolhouse Rocks song, “It’s Constitutional Crisis Time!” > > I’ve got the chorus: > > _When a governor won’t extradite_ > _a President for a State-level crime_ > _That’s Constitutional Crisis Time!_ > [@RTFirefly](#): > > _Presumably_ even the current Supreme Court could not ignore the direct wording of the Constitution, and would hold DeSantis in contempt if he failed to deliver Trump to the hands of New York state. _When the Supreme Court ignores the direct wording,_ _And with treason they’re a-flirting,_ _It’s Constitutional Crisis Time!_ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/247 "2023-03-31T18:28:11Z")
Trump’s Lawyer: “The defendant stands mute, your honor”. {courthouse erupts in laughter} ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/248 "2023-03-31T18:31:38Z")
Ahhh. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/249 "2023-03-31T18:32:21Z")
This indictment makes it easier for Fani Willis (among others) to arrest him in the future since it necessitates him being outside of Florida frequently. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/250 "2023-03-31T18:36:09Z")
It’s just a politcal show for DeSantis, as he know Trump will turn himself in to the NYC authorities in order to appear like a martyr. Trump isn’t about to be stuck campaigning from Florida, afraid to leave the state. That would be DeSantis’s dream. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/251 "2023-03-31T18:41:31Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > > But, I’m not sure how or why the FBI would get involved in extraditing someone from Florida to New York for local charges. > > They won’t. They have no jurisdiction to act on behalf of Manhattan. Isn’t that the opposite of this, or are you speaking about a different scenario? > [@Aspenglow](#): > > With respect to the Feds, I believe the FBI would be the primary law enforcement arm to facilitate an arrest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=13)