# Trump indicted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/272 "2023-03-31T20:47:00Z")

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A small, interesting note that may or not be connected: Allen Weisselberg has changed lawyers. Trump still pays for the new guy so it may not mean anything.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/273 "2023-03-31T20:50:09Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Is this not contempt of court? Couldn’t the judge toss him into jail at the arraignment to give him some time to think about his behavior and make better choices?

Judges don’t like to impede freedom of speech and I don’t see how it becomes a contempt of court charge, because there has to be a judge’s order to violate before the court can find contempt.

However, Trump is making it much more likely that there will be at least a partial gag order imposed by the judge.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/274 "2023-03-31T21:03:27Z")

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Drop them off in the middle of The Villages.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/275 "2023-03-31T21:05:11Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Absolutely, because if it becomes known that you can skate on a crime in Florida by simply leaving the state, his law-and-order credibility falls apart.

Heh.

What credibility? Those on the left already know that he has none, and those on the right will only believe the media outlets that tell them what they want to beleive.

What politicians _do_ and what they are held accountable for has a vast canyon in between now.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/276 "2023-03-31T21:13:20Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Those on the left already know that he has none, and those on the right will only believe the media outlets that tell them what they want to beleive.

Maybe. But if I’m his opponent (in the presidential race next year of the next Florida gubernatorial race), I’m running Willie Horton-style ads featuring the face of every alleged felon who escaped prosecution by taking a bus out of state.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/277 "2023-03-31T21:37:34Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I’m running Willie Horton-style ads featuring the face of every alleged felon who escaped prosecution by taking a bus out of state

You mean like all the ‘criminal’ migrants DeSantis shipped to blue states? His supporters ate that shit up. If we started exporting actual criminals they’d eat that up too.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/278 "2023-03-31T21:46:53Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Trump isn’t about to be stuck campaigning from Florida, afraid to leave the state.

Now here’s a question I had: Since this is a New York court, could they restrict him to staying in New York as a condition of his release? I mean, he could flee the country any time he wanted, he’s got the resources. Would they be able to make a case that they need to keep him close at hand because of this?

Making him live at Trump Towers in NYC for the duration wouldn’t be a hardship by any reasonable definition of the word, but it would certainly piss him off.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/279 "2023-03-31T21:49:58Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Now here’s a question I had: Since this is a New York court, could they restrict him to staying in New York as a condition of his release?

Yes they _could_. I wouldn’t expect that they will, however.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/280 "2023-03-31T21:57:06Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > I’m running Willie Horton-style ads featuring the face of every alleged felon who escaped prosecution by taking a bus out of state
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> You mean like all the ‘criminal’ migrants DeSantis shipped to blue states? His supporters ate that shit up. If we started exporting actual criminals they’d eat that up too.

Except these would be people who left to escape justice. RW folks don’t like criminals going unpunished.

Doesn’t matter – nothing like this is going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/281 "2023-04-01T00:05:27Z")

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Why aren’t the MAGAts mad at the grand jury? They’re the ones who indicted him. Bragg just presented the evidence (aiui).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/282 "2023-04-01T00:07:42Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> > [@GPT via Mahaloth](#):
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> > So bring on your indictments, your subpoenas and your trials,  
> > I’ll fight them all with fervor and with cunning legal wiles,
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> In _general_, this is merely good in contrast to other AI generated poetry that came before. Many lines fail to scan smoothly which is vitally important to Modern Major General. These lines, however, are amazing, because while it still doesn’t scan, you can force fit “trials” and “wiles” into “try-ee-als” and “why-ee-als” which definitely keeps to the spirit of the original.

Especially when it would have been so easy to make it scan…

_So bring on your indictments, your subpoenas and your bogus trials,  
I’ll fight them all with fervor and with cunning and with legal wiles,_

And the last two lines could have been:

_And no one can convict me, I’m resplendent in my innocence  
I am the very model of a persecuted defendant!_

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/283 "2023-04-01T00:13:36Z")

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Monty Python’s [take.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1cEIoP5dzs)

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/284 "2023-04-01T00:29:08Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Except these would be people who left to escape justice. RW folks don’t like criminals going unpunished.

As long as they personally don’t experience any pain or inconvenience, the RWNJs would rather we libs be punished by the criminals, than the criminals be punished by the law.

It isn’t even close.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/285 "2023-04-01T00:41:49Z")

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Is Trump’s Secret Service detail obligated to protect him from being arrested, or do they just step aside and follow him to the police station? If he decides to go hide somewhere will they immediately tell their superiors and, if so, will those superiors pass the word along ASAP?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/286 "2023-04-01T01:03:50Z")

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CNN reported that they are cooperating with the NYPD to protect him on the way to and at the courthouse? Where ever NY indicates people.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/287 "2023-04-01T01:04:49Z")

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I think you have to diss the judge to his face for that.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/288 "2023-04-01T01:06:23Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> RW folks don’t like criminals going unpunished.

They don’t like black and brown people going unpunished.

There are untold numbers of white people who should be punished that they will defend to the death. We know that because there are untold numbers of white people that have been punished that they are defending to the death.

See 1/6 prison choir.

[https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/07/january-6-inmates-prisoner-choir-song-featuring-trump-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/03/07/january-6-inmates-prisoner-choir-song-featuring-trump-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn)

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/289 "2023-04-01T03:00:59Z")

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TheDailyShow twitter feed had perhaps the best one-liner on this.

> Congrats to Donald Trump on finally winning a majority of votes!

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/290 "2023-04-01T03:23:18Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> The real victim here is Al Franken.
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> He was rightly pissed that Trump wasn’t indicted while he was guest host of The Daily Show. Think about what he could have done. (John Leguizano, this week’s host, may not even get a chance, since the news probably broke too late to change today’s taping.)

Last I heard, _Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me_ taped their show on Thursday evenings. It would be hysterical if this weekend’s show has no mention of Trump being indicted.

> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Why aren’t the MAGAts mad at the grand jury?

They’re MAGAs; they’re mad at everybody.

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**Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/291 "2023-04-01T03:29:31Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> The range I see on the 3 different 757 variants would drop the plane into the Atlantic ocean.

You’re making that sound like a _bad_ thing.

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