# Trump indicted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/292 "2023-04-01T04:35:33Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Where ever NY **indicates** people. Oh God, it’s contagious. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/293 "2023-04-01T05:00:21Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > TheDailyShow twitter feed had perhaps the best one-liner on this. I liked this one: [![](https://i.imgur.com/DiEJIWB.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/DiEJIWB.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/294 "2023-04-01T05:45:34Z")
I just want him to insist on taking the stand. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/295 "2023-04-01T06:05:58Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Thanks for fighting my ignorance and doing a deeper dive into all this. > > All I know is that in California, extraditions were quite routine. If the Governor signed the extradition warrant, I never saw that. Might be different from state to state. My part in extraditions was in the courtroom, taking minutes of the proceedings. I don’t recall a single one that was contested. It’s very common for people to waive extradition, which happens a lot when someone is already in custody in state A, and state B wants them. I did make a mistake in my post, though. I think there is discretion in the part about a fugitive who was outside of the state when the crime was committed, but I was wrong about there being discretion in other ways. I think DeSantis could perhaps cause delay, but under current case law, he can’t just refuse if NY has proven that Trump is required to be extradited under the interstate agreement. Interesting what DeSantis did here though. It was already in the news that Trump was turning himself in on Tuesday. So, that’s the strategy the Trump team decided on, which is a quite sane choice. Then, DeSantis says he won’t cooperate with extradition. So, he potentially gets a few points for refusing to cooperate in the “witch hunt,” and he potentially baits Trump into making a much less sane choice of strategy, and maybe also manages to make Trump look weak for turning himself in. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/296 "2023-04-01T09:05:52Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Whichever prosecutor goes after Trump, and whichever lawyer defends Trump, is set for a huge career boost. I agree with the prosecutor, but I’m not sure about the defender. For the most part, being part of Tumps legal team [has not been a good thing for ones career.](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-sanctioned-by-courts-election-lawsuits-2022-12) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/297 "2023-04-01T10:37:55Z")
And they don’t respect all of that part! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/298 "2023-04-01T10:40:32Z")
You seem to forget that Trump called for execution of innocent people. How’s that grasp you? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/299 "2023-04-01T13:36:09Z")
Everything Trump touches, dies. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/300 "2023-04-01T13:49:14Z")
> [@eschrodinger](#): > > Interesting what DeSantis did here though. It was already in the news that Trump was turning himself in on Tuesday. So, that’s the strategy the Trump team decided on, which is a quite sane choice. Just so I’m clear, extradition only comes into play if the person is already in custody in another state, or being at liberty in another state refuses to surrender to either state, right? If Trump voluntarily turns himself in to the NY DA, that eliminates any question of extradition, and there’s nothing DeSantis can do about it, right? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/301 "2023-04-01T14:03:31Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > The charges will be a matter of public record and we will learn them all on Tuesday, assuming everyone shows up for the arraignment. Then what was the point of sealing the indictment? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/302 "2023-04-01T14:14:15Z")
Well, trump doesn’t know the charges until he shows up. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/303 "2023-04-01T14:17:20Z")
Has Trump been informed of the charges on the indictment? Or will he find out when he arrives? ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/304 "2023-04-01T14:18:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > As long as they personally don’t experience any pain or inconvenience, the RWNJs would rather we libs be punished by the criminals, than the criminals be punished by the law. > > It isn’t even close. Perfectly said. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/305 "2023-04-01T14:42:10Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Then what was the point of sealing the indictment? I gather that’s just their process in this venue. Not all indictments are sealed in all venues. Hell, where I worked, we rarely used grand juries. There are other processes to get where they are now. In this case, I think sealing is a good idea. Manhattan has little ability to control Trump’s behavior until he goes before a judge. If Trump knew the charges ahead of time, he has a unique opportunity – one available to few (any?) others – to attack the DA for the specific charges being brought and argue his case in the press. As things stand, Trump can lash out in general terms, but not about anything specific. It’s bad enough without giving him additional ammunition. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/306 "2023-04-01T15:05:49Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I’m certain I had an American 757 from Boston to Paris about 12 years ago, so they can make it at least that far. Yeah, that’s a shorter distance then MIA - CMN ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/307 "2023-04-01T15:46:17Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > If Trump knew the charges ahead of time, he has a unique opportunity – one available to few (any?) others – to attack the DA for the specific charges being brought and argue his case in the press. As things stand, Trump can lash out in general terms, but not about anything specific. It’s bad enough without giving him additional ammunition. He will do that as soon as he’s charged, though. Honestly, I think it’s unlikely it will make any difference. there are cases where the whole process is secret, because they are worried the accused might run, or murder a witness, or whatever, before they can be apprehended. But this doesn’t appear to be that sort of case. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/308 "2023-04-01T15:57:45Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > He will do that as soon as he’s charged, though. Honestly, I think it’s unlikely it will make any difference. Not if he is instructed by a judge not to. Or if he does, he’ll be summoned back to the court for a formal gag order or if one is imposed at the arraignment, a more strict gag order. If he continually disregards the gag order, he can be remanded to custody so they can better control his mouth. Unlikely in this case, but an available option. Prosecutors have a right to an untainted jury pool as much as the defendant. Trump is a high profile defendant, so people are learning more than they ever wanted to know about their criminal justice system. But this is not uncommon. Remember Roger Stone defied Judge Amy Berman Jackson’s instructions to leave off with the provocative memes, one of which was a gun target imposed on a picture of her head. His gag order became quite restrictive as a result. > **[Roger Stone Barred From Using Social Media As Judge Tightens Gag Order](https://www.npr.org/2019/07/16/742333663/roger-stone-barred-from-using-social-media-as-judge-tightens-gag-order)** > > Judge Amy Berman Jackson ordered the political consultant not to post, like, retweet or forward following what she ruled was a breach of a gag order from earlier in his case. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > there are cases where the whole process is secret, because they are worried the accused might run, or murder a witness, or whatever, before they can be apprehended. But this doesn’t appear to be that sort of case. I don’t know what sort of cases those would be, so I can’t help there. You’re right that this isn’t that sort of case. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/309 "2023-04-01T16:00:07Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You seem to forget that Trump called for execution of innocent people. How’s that grasp you? To say nothing about declaring the 14th amendment was unconstitutional and a President has a _Get out of Jail Free_ card now and forever. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > Well, trump doesn’t know the charges until he shows up. If he doesn’t, do you suppose one of those “You’ve won a major award. Come on in and collect it,” stings would work? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/310 "2023-04-01T16:26:22Z")
Telling him he’s won the Nobel Peace Prize would definitely do it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/311 "2023-04-01T16:31:42Z")
A perfect Nobel Peace Prize. The most perfect we have ever given. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=16)