# Trump indicted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/332 "2023-04-02T16:03:29Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I’m certain I had an American 757 from Boston to Paris about 12 years ago, so they can make it at least that far.

If he’s trying to run. Would they let him take off from Boston? I suspect the flight plans of that plane are scrutinized by a number of 3 letter agencies.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/333 "2023-04-02T16:20:20Z")

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I’m wondering how much experience the typical hardcore MAGAs have had with arrest and the judicial system. Rather a lot, I imagine, considering their temperament. How are they going to feel when they see their hero being handled with kid gloves compared to the experiences they are familiar with? Especially when Trump starts whining about little shit like getting ink on his cuff links. How’s that going to play with someone who’s experience was the humiliating process experienced by most people dragged before a judge?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/334 "2023-04-02T16:32:42Z")

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They won’t care. Their god is being persecuted.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/335 "2023-04-02T16:42:18Z")

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[![](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/globegazette.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/1f/01f26e9e-dbd2-51cf-8a41-f353f78f1931/591f6b2de78f6.image.jpg?resize=990%2C716) ](https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/globegazette.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/1f/01f26e9e-dbd2-51cf-8a41-f353f78f1931/591f6b2de78f6.image.jpg?resize=990%2C716)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/336 "2023-04-02T16:46:04Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Trump has to inject some sort of drama and control struggle into everything does.

Trump says he will deliver remarks after his arraignment. We should have a contest, where the person who is closest to the Trump rambling disconnected word salad wins.

> **[Trump to Deliver Remarks Tuesday Night After His Arraignment](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-york/articles/2023-04-02/trump-to-deliver-remarks-tuesday-night-after-his-arraignment)**
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> Donald Trump's campaign says the former president will deliver remarks Tuesday night in Florida after his scheduled arraignment in New York earlier that day on charges related to hush money payments

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/337 "2023-04-02T16:52:51Z")

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## I tried doing that, writing like tRump. The filter on my LibreOffice exploded.

Meanwhile, at the cesspool called Fox News:

[Fox News panel justifies death threats to Stormy Daniels: ‘Take the money and keep your mouth shut’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fox-news-panel-justifies-death-threats-to-stormy-daniels-take-the-money-and-keep-your-mouth-shut/ar-AA19nSIY?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e10b4aa65f3d4aefef1e82c5ee2bd799&ei=8)

> “Yeah, look, she got a hundred and thirty thousand dollars and never had to open her mouth about this story at all, and violated the NDA, and has made a lot of money off this instance,” radio host Clay Travis said dismissively. “She’s put herself into the central part of this story. I think it’s awful anytime there’s claims of violence or threats, but I don’t think you can be surprised given the temperature in the country right now.”
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> Political strategist Lucy Caldwell agreed.
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> “Yeah, I mean, if you don’t want to take the ride, don’t take the ride, right?” Caldwell quipped.

Wow. Right down there with “Just lie back and enjoy it.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/338 "2023-04-02T16:54:01Z")

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Top 10 Words and phrases to be used:

“Witch hunt”  
“Soros”  
“Corrupt Democrats”  
“Radical Left Democrats”  
“Crooked Democrats”  
“Persecution”  
“Completely Innocent”  
“Hoax”  
“Make America Great Again”  
(Insulting nickname for DA Bragg)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/339 "2023-04-02T16:55:09Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump says he will deliver remarks after his arraignment

That sure buries the lede. This is the first acknowledgement from Trump that he would even show on Tuesday. @HMS_Irruncible 's post you replied to acknowledged he might not.

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**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/340 "2023-04-02T16:57:57Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Insulting nickname for DA Bragg

Racist nickname, plus an allusion to the animal species Trump asserts Bragg to be a member of. I’m leaning towards “reptile” myself.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/341 "2023-04-02T17:00:30Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump says he will deliver remarks after his arraignment.

I composed a few of my own at the same time as you did, with a drinking game in mind: 🍸 🍷 🍺

(And let’s not forget the possibilities of Trump Bingo™!)

Persecution (take giant gulp of Margarita)  
Unfair (giant gulp of vodka)  
“In History” (large swallow of red wine)  
Hoax (big gulp of straight tequila)  
“Witch Hunt” (gulp of rum)  
“Radical Left Democrats” (gulp of white wine)  
Exonerated (gulp of beer)  
“Completely Innocent” (another gulp of beer)

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/342 "2023-04-02T17:01:56Z")

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My hope is that the country can collectively ignore this event.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/343 "2023-04-02T17:21:57Z")

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How does he get the second nail in?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/344 "2023-04-02T17:22:17Z")

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Alvin “The Hammer” Bragg.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/345 "2023-04-02T17:24:14Z")

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Eh, Jack Smith looks like he has a suitably old-timey beard.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/346 "2023-04-02T17:24:55Z")

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Okay, I have to say something here, and just say that this picture is totally and categorically wrong.

There is no way a nail through the hand would hold tRump up. I’m not sure a nail through the wrist would do it either, for that matter.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/347 "2023-04-02T17:26:59Z")

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He doesn’t think ahead.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/348 "2023-04-02T17:36:37Z")

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Moderating:

@DavidNRockies, @CaptMurdock, @Euphonious_Polemic, @slicedalone, @wolfpup, @Love_Rhombus and @carnivorousplant:

Ok, funny, but taking us off topic. Let’s please return to the discussion of the indictment. Thanks.

> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Trump says he will deliver remarks after his arraignment. We should have a contest, where the person who is closest to the Trump rambling disconnected word salad wins.

Also fun, but not for P&E. If you want to start a thread in the Pit, I expect it will be very popular.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/349 "2023-04-02T17:42:38Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> Meanwhile, at the cesspool called Fox News:
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> [Fox News panel justifies death threats to Stormy Daniels: ‘Take the money and keep your mouth shut’](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fox-news-panel-justifies-death-threats-to-stormy-daniels-take-the-money-and-keep-your-mouth-shut/ar-AA19nSIY?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=e10b4aa65f3d4aefef1e82c5ee2bd799&ei=8)

There is a kernel of a point there. If we accept the facts as presented so far, Ms. Daniels did accept money from Trump to not talk about their affair. I haven’t seen any suggestion that she was forced or coerced into making that deal.

However,…

…if she is talking about it, I haven’t heard her. Plenty of other people are talking, like Michael Cohen, but I don’t know if Stormy Daniels has broken the deal.

…even if she did, that doesn’t justify death threats. The only victim of her breaking the deal would be Trump. It’s distressing, but not surprising, that people not directly involved in the situation would be so in Trump’s thrall that they would do this.

…Trump has gone back on his word so many times that I will shed not a single tear if someone has broken a promise to Trump.

…wouldn’t it be hysterical to see Trump try to recover his money from Stormy Daniels. What’s he going to do, sue her?

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/350 "2023-04-02T17:55:20Z")

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Just saw the mod note. Disregard.

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**Post date:** [April 2, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/351 "2023-04-02T19:22:37Z")

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Well, obviously not since he is already completely exonerated (according to him)!

I’m afraid to let myself enjoy this too much. He needs to be prosecuted on the Georgia election interference and stolen documents cases, for one thing. Plus I’m not sure if it will really happen on Tuesday. Based on just pure speculation, I’m wondering if they’re faking us out with the Tuesday date. Or he may decide not to cooperate after all and try to force DeSantis to protect him somehow. It could turn into a whole mess and take months just to get him to present in NY. I bet no one would even arrest him if he traveled to another state for a rally, especially if to a red state. 🙄

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