# Trump indicted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/392 "2023-04-03T13:37:46Z")
I remember reading that Trump used the courts throughout his career to break contracts and avoid fully paying his sub contractors. _Don’t like it? Sue me_ It was surprisingly effective for Trump. Obviously it will be different this time. Fighting felony charges will be new to Trump and he’s risking prison. This can’t be good. Attacking your lawyer before going to court? Trump needs the best criminal law attorneys. > **[Trump's Team Blasts His Lawyer as 'Dumb' 'Loudmouth'](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/joe-tacopina-lawyer-donald-trump-alvin-bragg-1234707943/)** > > Joe Tacopina “pisses off others with his antics, but he’s a blunt object that Donald Trump wants, apparently,” one source says ---
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/393 "2023-04-03T13:58:26Z")
## Trump Force One waiting on tarmac at Florida airport **By Martha Kelner, US correspondent** Only Donald Trump could create such a sense of occasion and spectacle around his own arraignment. His team have been treating the choreography around his journey from Florida to New York like a stop on the campaign trail, briefing on his expected movements. As such, the world’s media is gathered on one side of Bingham Island bridge, which overlooks the cluster of buildings making up his private Mar-a-Lago estate. Everyone is waiting for a glimpse of the motorcade which, around midday today, will transport the former president to Palm Beach international airport. Already waiting on the tarmac is Trump Force One, his private plane, which will whisk him to New York in a journey lasting just over two hours. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/394 "2023-04-03T14:05:04Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > > [@Joey\_P](#): > > > > It was from the article he posted. Just like if we posted that article here those same pictures would show up in the preview. He’s saying he didn’t have anything to do with it, > > I understand his argument. I’d feel more confident if the original article he tweeted could be dug up to prove it. I can’t find it, can you? [nationalfile.com](http://nationalfile.com) was the source. Even if true, his argument is bullshit. When you share 3rd party content on social media, the first thing you do is check the auto-populated image in the preview. If you don’t want that image associated with you, you can create your own image or simply share the content without the image. If it appears in your post, it’s no different than if you created it yourself. You want it out there. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/395 "2023-04-03T14:11:28Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > When you share 3rd party content on social media, the first thing you do is check the auto-populated image in the preview. Not that I share a ton of content and of course no one has ever heard of me but I don’t pay any attention to that. It wouldn’t have occurred to me. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/396 "2023-04-03T14:31:14Z")
Well now you know! 😀 Trump has posted thousands of times, so he can’t possibly claim ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/397 "2023-04-03T14:43:09Z")
I would never dispute Trump’s ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/398 "2023-04-03T14:48:38Z")
Tee’d it up perfectly, yet it took 12 minutes for someone to smack it down the fairway. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/399 "2023-04-03T15:00:38Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > That is, it seems to me that Trump wants to put out an image that a mobster lawyer is a good image to project. Which fits, because trump is a wannabe mobster anyway. Which reminds me, as far back as early 2017, I was wondering who would be trump’s Sammy the Bull–for a long time, I thought it would be Cohen, but while he’s done damage, it hasn’t happened yet. Weisselberg? He hasn’t turned yet (publicly). Someone’s got to turn on him to the extent that trump will fall. Or could it be cumulative? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/400 "2023-04-03T15:18:25Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > > [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > > > That is, it seems to me that Trump wants to put out an image that a mobster lawyer is a good image to project. > > Which fits, because trump is a wannabe mobster anyway. I would question “wannabe”. His business interests may be different, but his methods are much the same. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/401 "2023-04-03T15:28:44Z")
Yeah, I take your point. I was thinking “wannabe” in the sense of a full-blown Mafioso like John Gotti. Instead, he is a mobster in the sense of his methods and tactics. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/402 "2023-04-03T15:35:14Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > Which reminds me, as far back as early 2017, I was wondering who would be trump’s Sammy the Bull–for a long time, I thought it would be Cohen, but while he’s done damage, it hasn’t happened yet. Weisselberg? He hasn’t turned yet (publicly). Someone’s got to turn on him to the extent that trump will fall. Or could it be cumulative? My money’s on the family. Ivanka has been brought up to be just like dad, and she’ll eventually throw him under the bus with a neat little judo move once she doesn’t need him anymore. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/403 "2023-04-03T15:44:15Z")
My guess is cumulative rather than one big bombshell. It’ll be interesting. I doubt that it’s Ivanka. I don’t think she was in peril and it wouldn’t be good for her image amongst those that matter to her. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/404 "2023-04-03T15:46:27Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Ivanka has been brought up to be just like dad, and she’ll eventually throw him under the bus with a neat little judo move Or perhaps he’ll fall out of an open window. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/405 "2023-04-03T16:31:39Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > There are still dozens of sealed indictments in DC which resulted from the Mueller investigation. Why haven’t these indictments been unsealed yet? What’s the procedure for doing so? Is it like NY where they’re sealed until the arraignment? If so, who decides to arraign the accused? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/406 "2023-04-03T16:46:50Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Trump says he will deliver remarks after his arraignment. We should have a contest, where the person who is closest to the Trump rambling disconnected word salad wins. I won’t claim that my prediction was successful if Trump gives a weird post-arraignment speech. Although it does feed the drama, it’s an expected level of drama for him, so I would see it as business as usual. But if he does show up for arraignment Tuesday during normal business hours, I will find that surprising and instructive. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/407 "2023-04-03T17:01:02Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > But if he does show up for arraignment Tuesday during normal business hours, I will find that surprising and instructive. Be instructed, then: CNN has been breathlessly following the progress of his magnificent motorcase toward the airport where magnificent Trump Force One awaits his arrival to fly him to the moon – er, ah, to New York, so that he may gather his magnificent strength in his Manhattan lair – er, magnificent penthouse before striding magnificently into the courthouse to face down his evil corrupt foes. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/408 "2023-04-03T17:29:03Z")
Maybe the plane will make a right turn and fly straight to Moscow. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/409 "2023-04-03T17:34:20Z")
According to this, a gag order or some kind is likely but there will be no travel restrictions. He will fly back home immediately after the hearing and speak at Mar-a-Lago that night. No handcuffs but there will be fingerprints, mug shot and DNA swab. Do you think Stormy saved a blue dress? > **[Trump plans to fly back to Mar-a-Lago, hours after his expected arraignment....](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-likely-allowed-travel-after-arraignment-legal-experts-2023-4)** > > Donald Trump is expected to be arraigned in New York on Tuesday, after which, he said he'll be making a statement from Mar-a-Lago in Florida. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/410 "2023-04-03T17:37:47Z")
This is one instance where I wish the RWNJ’s suspicions about the MSM (mainstream media) were true, and normal news outlets would not cover the crazy maunderings of TFG, and deny him that sweet, sweet attention he craves. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/411 "2023-04-03T17:40:47Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > According to this, a gag order or some kind is likely but there will be no travel restrictions. I’m not too worried about this. I suspect the Feds are keeping close tabs on his travel plans. Remember when Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas tried to leave the country? > **[Florida men tied to Giuliani, Ukraine probe arrested](https://apnews.com/article/indictments-campaign-finance-fl-state-wire-impeachments-elections-c9125e9ccd894965bbf2860100366779)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Two Florida businessmen tied to President Donald Trump's lawyer and the Ukraine impeachment investigation were charged with federal campaign finance violations. I’ve noticed that Trump has engaged in zero international travel since leaving office. And I think this is why. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=21)