# Trump indicted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/712 "2023-04-04T22:37:50Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > It doesn’t seem right that a misdemeanor can be elevated to a felony based on just an accusation of another felony. IANAL, but it’s not “just an accusation” of another felony. It’s quite common for an offense to be escalated to a more serious one if it occurs in the course of the commission of a crime or if it constitutes a subsequent coverup, but that charge requires a conviction on the more serious felony. Long before this arraignment, it was speculated that the financial irregularities that might otherwise be misdemeanors would become felonies if they were carried out in order to hide a more serious crime. This is exactly Bragg’s strategy here, the more serious crime being violations of election law. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/713 "2023-04-04T22:56:48Z")
As of this moment, Don Jr’s outrageous and dangerous tweet posting a picture of the judge’s daughter is still there. Posted at 12:27 PM today, with 3,350 retweets when I looked at it earlier, but right now up to almost 8,500 retweets, of which I’m sure all the slavering retweeters are heavily armed rednecks. The Orange One and his progeny are absolutely nothing less than an all-out goddamned crime family. I wonder if any of these criminal degenerates can explain what they hoped to accomplish by posting her picture. ---
**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/714 "2023-04-04T22:57:15Z")
The white house gift shop is selling a commemorative coin for “THE INDICTMENT OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP”. I just might buy one. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/715 "2023-04-04T22:59:39Z")
This has to be a whoosh, right? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/716 "2023-04-04T23:08:58Z")
Okay, I’m late to the party, but: _ **DECEMBER???** _ Come on! Why such a long delay? Are we going to see any movement or will it all be behind the scenes? Are any of these other threatened suits going to hit the fan? In the meantime, he’s going to raise many more millions of dollars (or his minions will for him) and keep running for president. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/717 "2023-04-04T23:11:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Why such a long delay? Trump’s attorneys just got a library full of documents that they have to review. It’s reasonable to give them enough time. ---
**Author:** ![Ssounder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d07c76/32.png) [@Ssounder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ssounder)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/718 "2023-04-04T23:15:06Z")
I share your outrage fatigue… 😵‍💫 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/719 "2023-04-04T23:20:26Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > This has to be a whoosh, right? The White House Gift Shop is unrelated to the White House. It’s just someone who bought the hostname. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/720 "2023-04-04T23:23:28Z")
Ah, OK. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/721 "2023-04-04T23:37:14Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Okay, I’m late to the party, but: _ **DECEMBER???** _ Come on! I’m fine with this. I’m happy to see him spend primary season in the courtroom. Ideally, multiple courtrooms. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/722 "2023-04-04T23:42:38Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > His suckers sent him four million bucks in like 24 hours or something. A quick calculation based off extensive research (10 min)… Looks like 4 mill would get him enough fuel for roughly 10 round trip flights to New York. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/723 "2023-04-04T23:45:30Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > That’s my feeling. It’s common (in Canadian law, anyway) for an accused released on a recognizance, to have a number of conditions attached. Keeping quiet, especially when it comes to threats and intimidation can be among them, if the situation warrants. So, if Trump is released on his own recognizance on condition that he doesn’t say anything stupid, and then he inevitably says something stupid, does that mean that the recognizance is then off the table and he spends the rest of the time until the conclusion of his trial rotting in a jail cell? ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/724 "2023-04-04T23:46:31Z")
This was discussed above. Aspenglow thinks house arrest with no internet access would probably be the worst he’d get for violating any gag order. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/725 "2023-04-04T23:46:40Z")
Of course not. He won’t ever go to jail and you know this. Monetary fines at worst. Edit: Or what Aspenglow said. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/726 "2023-04-04T23:51:58Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So, if Trump is released on his own recognizance on condition that he doesn’t say anything stupid, and then he inevitably says something stupid, does that mean that the recognizance is then off the table and he spends the rest of the time until the conclusion of his trial rotting in a jail cell? Well, “stupid” is in the eye of the beholder. There’s no gag order, because as a declared candidate, Trump has to be able to campaign, make speeches, hold rallies, etc., and he can say stupid things totally unrelated to his legal worries. But I’m sure that if his words caused his followers to threaten and intimidate anybody involved in the legal process (as on January 6), some sanction would result. **Aspenglow** ’s sanction makes a lot of sense, and would (IMHO) be the most likely result. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/727 "2023-04-04T23:54:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So, if Trump is released on his own recognizance on condition that he doesn’t say anything stupid, and then he inevitably says something stupid, does that mean that the recognizance is then off the table and he spends the rest of the time until the conclusion of his trial rotting in a jail cell? There would be many, many steps between where we are and where he’d have to be to get locked up pre-trial. As of now, there isn’t even a gag order in place. So, he’d get one free stupid comment, then a gag order. Then he’ll violate that, and the judge will tell him not to do it again. Then he’ll do it again, and the Judge will say “next time…something something.” Maybe a fine. _Maybe_ eventually house arrest, but even that seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/728 "2023-04-05T00:02:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I didn’t forget, but I’m on unclear on the potential impact. It’s a civil suit, not a criminal one, That civil suit has already brought up past allegations of rape. [Including that 13-year-old.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/lawsuit-accusing-trump-of-raping-a-13-year-old-girl-reemerges-in-light-of-defamation-lawsuit/ar-AA18DunI?li=BBnb7Kz) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/729 "2023-04-05T00:02:06Z")
Yeah, I remember seeing that. The party of law and order is going to remove anyone that stands for law and order. Georgia looked like a slam dunk to me. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/730 "2023-04-05T00:06:07Z")
In the court transcript, Trump’s lawyers referred to him as “president” Trump. If I were the judge I would remind them that the proper protocol indicates that only the sitting president can be addressed by that title. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/731 "2023-04-05T00:07:58Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Georgia looked like a slam dunk to me. I think it is, too. Which is why Republicans are so afraid of it. Fani Willis’s case likely contemplates charging Republicans in addition to Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904.md?page=37)