# Trump indicted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/792 "2023-04-05T19:35:10Z")
(Channeling Walt Whitman) Trump contains multitudes. Of lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/793 "2023-04-05T19:39:32Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > I would love a list of those 30 / 150 precedents. It goes a long way to undermine the witch hunt narrative. It won’t, because that same narrative isn’t fact-based. You can’t reason someone out of position they didn’t reason themselves into. Any facts will be declared fake news and you might even be deemed a communist. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/794 "2023-04-05T20:07:31Z")
the charges are: 11 for false check (to cohen), 11 for false invoices (cohen again), and 12 for false general ledger (trump org). they all interconnect. to reimburse cohen, trump org had cohen create false invoices for “legal services”. then trump org and trump created false checks to pay the false invoices; then trump org created false general ledger entries to account for the false checks. there were 11 false check and 11 false invoices as cohen combined jan and feb for one invoice and trump org issued one check. trump org split the ledger entry of that invoice. it would be difficult to split that series of events. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/795 "2023-04-05T20:08:21Z")
From NPR: " And just before Tuesday’s hearing in New York, a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., allowed [a Department of Justice investigation](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1164985436/trump-criminal-investigations) into Trump to proceed. The court ruled that Special Counsel Jack Smith can question top Trump aides on his actions in Jan. 6 and handling of classified documents, Johnson reports." ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/796 "2023-04-05T20:10:42Z")
Moderating: > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > From NPR: " And just before Tuesday’s hearing in New York, a federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., allowed [a Department of Justice investigation](https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1164985436/trump-criminal-investigations) into Trump to proceed. The court ruled that Special Counsel Jack Smith can question top Trump aides on his actions in Jan. 6 and handling of classified documents, Johnson reports." Good information, but this information has nothing to do with the indictment/arraignment Trump underwent yesterday. Please be sure you’re posting information that’s applicable to the thread you’re in. Otherwise, it’s a hijack. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/797 "2023-04-05T20:11:02Z")
> [@TheTooth](#): > > Any facts will be declared fake news and you might even be deemed a communist. _I been Ayn Randed, nearly branded Communist, 'cause I’m left-handed That’s the hand I use, well, never mind_ ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/798 "2023-04-05T22:05:49Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Good information, but this information has nothing to do with the indictment/arraignment Trump underwent yesterday. Please be sure you’re posting information that’s applicable to the thread you’re in. Otherwise, it’s a hijack. Thanks. Why not tag this thread as {breaking news} ? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/799 "2023-04-05T22:14:16Z")
Because breaking news threads are the purview of MPSIMS, not P&E. Personally, I think the thread is about played out, and I hope people will use the other open threads now. It may be better to lock this one. The event is over and the indictment is now known. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/800 "2023-04-05T22:15:30Z")
Yes, that makes sense, @Aspenglow. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/801 "2023-04-05T22:17:32Z")
Thanks. It’s genuinely difficult for posters to keep all this straight, so I’m not going to be a hard ass about it unless someone is persistent in their posting in incorrect threads. I suspect we’ll all get it better figured out as we go along. (Fingers secretly crossed.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/802 "2023-04-05T22:49:26Z")
Love this detail: > Fox was reporting that after Trump was booked and before he walked into the courtroom he would say something to the reporters standing in the hallway waiting for him. Instead, Trump looked down, pushing the door after the cop walking in front of him didn’t hold it open for the fallen president. > **[The Trump arraignment showed the truly bizarre groups that make up the MAGA...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-supporters-outside-courthouse/)** > > The Southern Poverty Law Center fights for civil rights in the courts, but it also monitors hate groups and activists known for pushing hate or violence against specific groups of people. In writing about the crowds seen outside of the courthouse on... ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/803 "2023-04-06T01:16:58Z")
Nothing happening until December, go ahead and close her up. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/804 "2023-04-06T01:22:34Z")
Moderating: I appreciate your willingness to let me do that. Ordinarily we just let them drop off the radar. But this one has caused some confusion and we already had a thread on the total case that was started earlier. I’ll close this one to minimize confusion on the basis that it’s a duplicate. It certainly earned its keep yesterday! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/805 "2023-04-06T01:22:59Z")
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