# Trump indicted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [March 30, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904 "2023-03-30T22:56:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/131 "2023-03-31T12:08:54Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Stormy should come out with a statement that although there was a hush money thing, the sex was phenomenal.

She actually said that “It was the worst 90 seconds of my life”.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/132 "2023-03-31T12:09:28Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> She actually said that “It was the worst 90 seconds of my life”.

🤣

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/133 "2023-03-31T12:09:41Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> he’s been “INDICATED”

I’m hoping that means somebody just pointed at him or something and not the Judas kiss thing.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/134 "2023-03-31T12:10:34Z")

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I’m not a p&e mod, (i am a mod in other forums) but they don’t seem to have logged on, yet, so I’m going to give some general advice/information.

As you already to be new here, i thought I’d let you know that the style in the politics& elections forum is to have fairly narrow topics and keep the discussion to those topics. Whether Biden or Clinton should be indicted isn’t the topic of this thread. Feel free to create a new thread to make a case for either or both of those (make it clear in the first post.) You can even do a link from there to this thread, if you want to catch some eyeballs.

> [@New Rules for Great Debates and Elections – January 2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-rules-for-great-debates-and-elections-january-2020/845726/1):
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/136 "2023-03-31T12:10:38Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> His police sheet will show us his real height and weight, and whether he wears a hair piece.

He’ll claim that the police sheet should be classified for National Security reasons.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But what happens if Trump refuses to go to NY?

We’ll need a new Schoolhouse Rocks song, “It’s Constitutional Crisis Time!”

I’ve got the chorus:

_When a governor won’t extradite_  
_a President for a State-level crime_  
_That’s Constitutional Crisis Time!_

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/137 "2023-03-31T12:12:20Z")

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He’s not being indicted for paying hush money (which is not against the law, by the way). He’s being indicted for calling it a campaign expense, which IS illegal. Try to keep up.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/138 "2023-03-31T12:13:22Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I would guess that even if he’s convicted he’d likely just get house arrest and a heavy fine.

He might be shooting himself in the foot by stirring up his MAGAtroid myrmidons – there’s a strong case that he needs to be locked up in a conventional prison with sufficient security to discourage Meal Team Sixpack from attempting to “liberate” him.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/139 "2023-03-31T12:15:24Z")

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The night they drove old Dixie down  
And the bells were ringing  
The night they drove old Dixie down  
And the people were singing  
They went, “Na, na, la, na, na, la”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/140 "2023-03-31T12:16:10Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> He might; OTOH, doing so would also likely deeply anger the MAGAts, whom I imagine DeSantis is hoping to attract for a Presidential run.

I imagine the scene of DeSantis trying to figure out what to do played out like the Battle of Wits in The Princess Bride.

“Clearly I cannot choose the bottle in front of you…”

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/141 "2023-03-31T12:24:03Z")

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Sweet MAGA tears (buhm buhm buhm) good times never seemed so good (so good so good so good)

The posts on my local tv station’s FB page are hilarious.

> Biden, his sons and the Clinton’s have enough to put them away for life. Trumps guilty of nothing.

> Nothing more than a BS change out of Dem’s political revenge to entertain the idiots who watch the news and voted for Bidumb. Nothing more.

> Just a distraction from the true fascist agenda

> OMG Leave this man alone. Our country was running great when he was President.

If it had been multiple convictions of first degree murder, this lot wouldn’t budge.

Things I’m looking forward to include seeing him slapped with handcuffs only to have his tiny hands slip right through, having his true weight being made public knowledge, and seeing him break down and cry when the sentence is read. Rinse and repeat for the GA election interference and the federal theft of documents/ obstruction of justice case.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/142 "2023-03-31T12:37:50Z")

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Yeah, the MAGATs are going to dismiss any legal action against TFG and handwaive it away as “political”, whatever they think that means. All this is not intended to persuade them that their hero is a turd. Let the process unfold and justice be served.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/143 "2023-03-31T12:59:26Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> He might be shooting himself in the foot by stirring up his MAGAtroid myrmidons – there’s a strong case that he needs to be locked up in a conventional prison with sufficient security to discourage Meal Team Sixpack from attempting to “liberate” him.

Nah. The biggest risk to Trump is that he’ll find out they have abandoned him in his hour of need. Or at least that there aren’t as many of them as he expected, and that those red hats now say DeSantis instead of Trump.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/144 "2023-03-31T13:07:14Z")

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Over here in the UK the news must have broken well after midnight. I found out at about 1.30 AM. It turned into quite a late night.

Re declaring he would not cooperate with extradition:

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> DeSantis made yet another dumb move.

I need to be educated here. How so? In practical terms - assuming he is going to run for the Republican nomination - did he have a choice? Doesn’t going any other way risk alienating potential support?

j

ETA: Of course, what he says and what he does may be two different things.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/145 "2023-03-31T13:13:50Z")

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_O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!_

Don’t mind me, I’m just chortling in my joy.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/146 "2023-03-31T13:13:58Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> We’ll need a new Schoolhouse Rocks song, “It’s Constitutional Crisis Time!”
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> I’ve got the chorus:
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> _When a governor won’t extradite_  
> _a President for a State-level crime_  
> _That’s Constitutional Crisis Time!_

Nice. I tried my hand at some lyrics, to be sung to the Schoolhouse Rock tune “I’m just a bill”:

_Former pres Don_  
_Is a bad lying con_  
_And he’s indicted for being a John._  
_Well, it’s a long, long journey_  
_To a prison stay_  
_It’s a long, long wait_  
_Till he’s finally locked away_  
_But I know he’ll be in jail some day_  
_At least I hope and pray that he’s gone_  
_But for now he’s whining ‘Feds get off my lawn’._

_Gee, Don,_  
_You certainly are corrupt and amoral to the core._

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/147 "2023-03-31T13:22:33Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> In practical terms - assuming he is going to run for the Republican nomination - did he have a choice?

In legal terms, no, he has no choice:

> A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.  
> –US Constitution, Article IV, Section 2

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/148 "2023-03-31T13:35:01Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> He’ll claim that the police sheet should be classified for National Security reasons.

No. He’ll say it’s being audited.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/149 "2023-03-31T13:36:33Z")

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ChatGPT in the style of Modern Major General:

> [@](#):
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> "I am the very model of a modern defendant general,  
> My lawyers are the finest and they’ll make this case immaterial,  
> I’ll tweet and rant and rave until my followers are satisfied,  
> And claim it’s just a witch hunt from those who’ve always lied.
> 
> My wealth and power give me immunity from any charge,  
> And I’ll deny and deflect until the verdict is at large,  
> I’ll blame the system, the press, and anyone else who comes to mind,  
> And say that I’m the victim, and the truth is hard to find.
> 
> So bring on your indictments, your subpoenas and your trials,  
> I’ll fight them all with fervor and with cunning legal wiles,  
> I am the very model of a modern defendant general,  
> And nothing can defeat me, for I am truly exceptional!"

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/150 "2023-03-31T13:40:20Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> ChatGPT in the style of Modern Major General:

Future Historians: “Mankind had often wondered if an artificial intelligence would decide to wipe out humanity. Little did they know that having ChatGPT become self-aware just as it was being asked to write hundreds of thousands of parodies related to Donald Trump would be the determining factor in ChatGPT’s decision to wipe out humanity…”

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-indicted/981904/151 "2023-03-31T13:43:07Z")

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So about the mug shot, I’m curious -

- Is Bragg _allowed_ to release or publish the mugshot?
- Is Bragg _required_ to release it or publish it?
- Does Trump have any legal recourse to prevent its release or publication?

If you can’t tell, I’d very much like to see the mugshot published.

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