# Trump is Apparently Not Well-Liked at Christian Universities

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 22, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920 "2016-01-22T23:29:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheLadyMage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheLadyMage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLadyMage)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/1 "2016-01-22T23:29:25Z")

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Full disclosure: I am a student at said university:

> **[Trump visiting Regent: Christian students have mixed feelings](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/trump-visiting-regent-christian-students-mixed-feelings)**
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> These students are not for Trump

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**Author:** ![BlackStabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@BlackStabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackStabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/2 "2016-01-22T23:41:59Z")

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> [@TheLadyMage](#):
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> Full disclosure: I am a student at said university:
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> [http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/01/21/trump-visiting-regent-christian-students-mixed-feelings/](http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/01/21/trump-visiting-regent-christian-students-mixed-feelings/)

None of our major politicians are REALLY Christian. They just pretend to be to gain votes.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/3 "2016-01-22T23:45:49Z")

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> [@BlackStabbath](#):
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> None of our major politicians are REALLY Christian. They just pretend to be to gain votes.

Bernie Sanders might not agree with that statement.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/4 "2016-01-23T00:04:12Z")

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> [@BlackStabbath](#):
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> None of our major politicians are REALLY Christian.

Well, I’m sure Carson is . . . if he counts as a “major politician” . . . and if 7th Day Adventism counts as “Christian.”

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**Author:** ![TheLadyMage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheLadyMage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLadyMage)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/5 "2016-01-23T00:06:06Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Well, I’m sure Carson is . . . if he counts as a “major politician” . . . and if 7th Day Adventism counts as “Christian.”

Wait, Carson is atheist? Also, I’m extremely proud that I know people that are witty enough to come up with the last quote in the article.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/6 "2016-01-23T01:27:57Z")

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Who cares? TRUMP’s getting pretty healthy support among the evangelicals but his real strength is amongst the unchurched lumpenproletariat of the American working-class.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/7 "2016-01-23T01:39:42Z")

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Anecdotal, admittedly, but my super Jesus-y coworker is solidly pro Cruz. He thinks Trump is a fake Christian and Cruz is hated by everyone he has worked with and for because they are all corrupt and they hate Cruz because he is honest and un-corrupt. Seriously, that’s what he thinks.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/8 "2016-01-23T02:18:12Z")

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> [@TheLadyMage](#):
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> Wait, Carson is atheist? Also, I’m extremely proud that I know people that are witty enough to come up with the last quote in the article.

What? Your question is confusing me. Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. Where are you getting “atheist”?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/9 "2016-01-23T02:40:34Z")

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There’s hardly anyplace where Trump is well-liked:

> **[Donald Trump Is Really Unpopular With General Election Voters](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-is-really-unpopular-with-general-election-voters/)**
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> Several recent stories, like this one from the Washington Post’s Philip Rucker and Robert Costa, report that influential Republicans have become increasingly re…

If he wins the nomination, it will because the majority of Republicans who view him unfavorably split their votes. So, in this respect, conservative Christian universities are no outliers.

I’m not saying Trump winning in November is impossible. Lesser evil voting is common. I’m guessing that most Regent University students would, holding their noses, vote for the bigoted, misogynist Donald Trump, the guy who is [looking to take the oil](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/259500-trumps-isis-plan-take-the-oil) from our adversaries, over a mainstream candidate like Hilary Clinton. If I’m wrong, TheLadyMage, I’ll be glad to learn that, so please correct me.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/10 "2016-01-23T16:30:01Z")

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Oh, Carson’s faith in God is unshakable. After all, he sees Him every morning when he looks in the mirror.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/11 "2016-01-23T16:44:47Z")

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> [@BlackStabbath](#):
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> None of our major politicians are REALLY Christian. They just pretend to be to gain votes.

Huckabee, Carson and Santorum are genuine in their religious beliefs. Maybe Cruz too, but he is playing it up. The rest are faking it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/12 "2016-01-23T19:07:09Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Anecdotal, admittedly, but my super Jesus-y coworker is solidly pro Cruz. He thinks Trump is a fake Christian…

Trump is a fake _everything_.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/13 "2016-01-23T19:20:34Z")

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[Bobby Jindal](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/25/jindal-trump-hasnt-read-bible-he-isnt-in-it/) says that Trump has never read the Bible. Because Trump is not in the Bible.

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**Author:** ![TheLadyMage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheLadyMage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLadyMage)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/14 "2016-01-23T22:52:40Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> What? Your question is confusing me. Carson is a Seventh Day Adventist. Where are you getting “atheist”?

Whoops misread your original post.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/15 "2016-01-24T15:41:47Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Anecdotal, admittedly, but my super Jesus-y coworker is solidly pro Cruz. He thinks Trump is a fake Christian and Cruz is hated by everyone he has worked with and for because they are all corrupt and they hate Cruz because he is honest and un-corrupt. Seriously, that’s what he thinks.

I’m guessing a lot of church people feel the same way. When Trump was asked what his favorite Bible verse was, [this is what happened:](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/26/reporter-presses-donald-trump-to-name-his-favorite-bible-verse-take-a-look-at-how-he-responds/)

> [@](#):
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> “Well, I wouldn’t want to get into it,” Trump replied. “Because that’s very personal. You know, when I talk about the Bible it’s vey personal. So I don’t want to get into it.”
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> Halperin pressed, again asking if he would name a favorite verse or two.
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> “No, I don’t want to do that,” Trump said.
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> Another reporter asked the billionaire if he is an “Old Testament guy or New Testament.”
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> “Probably equal. I think it’s just incredible, the whole Bible is incredible,” Trump said.

It’s very evident that he does not read the Bible regularly or possibly ever, and he can’t even do the basic studying to pander effectively. Of course, there are still probably a not-insignificant number of evangelicals who see him as fake, but as a better candidate than others.

> [@Superdude](#):
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> [Bobby Jindal](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/25/jindal-trump-hasnt-read-bible-he-isnt-in-it/) says that Trump has never read the Bible. Because Trump is not in the Bible.

Ha, good burn from Jindal.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/16 "2016-01-24T17:09:52Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> It’s very evident that he does not read the Bible regularly or possibly ever, and he can’t even do the basic studying to pander effectively. Of course, there are still probably a not-insignificant number of evangelicals who see him as fake, but as a better candidate than others.

This reminds me of planning my father’s funeral. I’d never known my father to be religious at all. The most spiritual I ever saw him was when he would take the Lord’s name in vain during a baseball game.

The funeral director said that he was going to read Dad’s favorite Bible verse. He explained it was John 3:16. We immediately assumed (and still do) that that was the only verse he knew right off the top of his head. And he only knew that from signs people would hold up during sporting events.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/17 "2016-01-24T18:58:37Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> I’m guessing a lot of church people feel the same way. When Trump was asked what his favorite Bible verse was, [this is what happened:](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/26/reporter-presses-donald-trump-to-name-his-favorite-bible-verse-take-a-look-at-how-he-responds/)
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> It’s very evident that he does not read the Bible regularly or possibly ever, and he can’t even do the basic studying to pander effectively. Of course, there are still probably a not-insignificant number of evangelicals who see him as fake, but as a better candidate than others.

I read a Facebook comment recently that I hope gains traction, so I’ll share it here: Trump is like a high school student who hasn’t read the material, trying to bullshit his way through an exam.

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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/18 "2016-01-24T19:26:05Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Cruz is hated by everyone he has worked with and for because they are all corrupt and they hate Cruz because he is honest and un-corrupt. Seriously, that’s what he thinks.

That’s the standard “turn water into wine” sort of right-wing thinking these days. If you point out that someone is an idiot, it’s because you are an elite liberal hater or whatever. The idea that an idiot is just an idiot doesn’t cross their minds. It’s all about paranoia. It’s why they talk themselves into believing some of the stupidest shit on Earth and following the stupidest people on Earth.

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**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/19 "2016-01-24T19:28:06Z")

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Trump says will if he is elected, Christianity will have [great power](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-im-president-christianity-power-195834887.html).

He is also upset with department stores that do not wish him a “Merry Christmas” and will no longer patronize them.

Guess I know where I will do my shopping next year. 😃

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-apparently-not-well-liked-at-christian-universities/743920/20 "2016-01-24T20:37:33Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> Trump says will if he is elected, Christianity will have [great power](http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-im-president-christianity-power-195834887.html).
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> He is also upset with department stores that do not wish him a “Merry Christmas” and will no longer patronize them.
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> Guess I know where I will do my shopping next year. 😃

From that article:

> [@](#):
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> noting that the real-estate mogul recently said he doesn’t like to ask God for forgiveness.

I’m no Christian, but asking God for forgiveness would indicate that he felt that he had been wrong about something. And we know there’s no chance of humility on that scale.

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