# Trump is begging for help. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2017, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125 "2017-10-17T14:02:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/21 "2017-10-18T03:24:36Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Two years ago, we played a little game, _“Predict the GOP nominee.”_ Those were happier, optimistic days. I remember those days, back when we thought no candidate could possibly be worse than Ted Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/22 "2017-10-18T03:41:06Z")
All the people that speculate what Trump is planning. Don’t you get it. There **is no plan**. None. Trump decides to say whatever it is the person he’s with seems to want to hear. The only policy he has is that if an action appears to benefit himself, he’s going to pick it. He makes decisions that affect the entire nation, and even the historical record of the performance of democracy itself, based on whatever half truths and distorted data filters in from cable TV. There is no long term plan. None of the things he’s doing are going to come together to shape some amazing masterpiece. More like a 5 year old who is bad at art. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/23 "2017-10-18T09:29:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I remember those days, back when we thought no candidate could possibly be worse than Ted Cruz. I debated registering as a Republican just to vote against Trump in the primary but by the time Florida rolled around all the sane candidates had dropped out. In retrospect, maybe I should have anyway because I knew he was insane and incompetent but I didn’t know the depths of both. But at the time it would have been worth it to make the effort if Jeb! had still been in the race, but not just to replace Trump with Cruz, even though Cruz would have been _marginally_ better to me at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/24 "2017-10-18T09:52:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Maybe somebody needs to sit him down and explain that if there’s a nuclear war, there might not be anybody left who knows who Donald Trump is. The prospect of that might actually make him a little more cautious about risking a nuclear war. That just might work! :). Worth a try. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/25 "2017-10-18T11:31:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I disagree. I think there is something Trump cares about: his image. He wants everyone else to think he’s as great as he thinks he is. > > And I do think that at some level, he’s aware that he’s not a good President. The frequency of his denials support this. > > My belief is that Trump wanted to become President so he would be remembered a hundred years from now. And he will be. But I think it’s slowly dawning on him that he won’t be remembered favorably. A hundred years from now, people will have forgotten whatever success Trump had as a businessman. But they’ll remember what a failure he was as a President. > > And I think it bothers Trump to know this. There you go 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/26 "2017-10-18T12:00:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But I think it’s slowly dawning on him that he won’t be remembered favorably. A hundred years from now, people will have forgotten whatever success Trump had as a businessman. But they’ll remember what a failure he was as a President. > > And I think it bothers Trump to know this. Possibly. But you have to remember that he lives in a cocoon. The only news he gets is Fox & Friends plus his Twitter feed. According to them, he can do no wrong. He may be vaguely aware that there is unflattering press about him, but in his cocoon it is all just an unwarranted vendetta against him. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/27 "2017-10-18T12:10:15Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > He’s doing what he’s been saying he’s going to do for the last two years. This isn’t something to be surprised by. A point worth reiterating. He was elected to do these things. > [@Crotalus](#): > > I think I understand your theory, and I would have been inclined to agree until I read [this article on Politico](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/13/donald-trump-positive-thinking-215704). I think he is incapable of recognizing when he is in over his head. Interesting take. If some of his actions weren’t plain infantile and/or spiteful it would have more credence. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/28 "2017-10-18T12:41:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Possibly. But you have to remember that he lives in a cocoon. The only news he gets is Fox & Friends plus his Twitter feed. According to them, he can do no wrong. He may be vaguely aware that there is unflattering press about him, but in his cocoon it is all just an unwarranted vendetta against him. Oh, he’s plenty more than vaguely aware; heck, he just tweeted about it: “So much fake news being put in dying magazines and newspapers. Only place worse may be @NBCNews, @CBSNews, @ABC and @CNN. Fiction writers!” I like to imagine that list growing, Expects-The-Spanish-Inquisition style, each time he tweets something along those lines again… ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/29 "2017-10-18T14:35:01Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I think I understand your theory, and I would have been inclined to agree until I read [this article on Politico](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/13/donald-trump-positive-thinking-215704). I think he is incapable of recognizing when he is in over his head. A very disappointing article. It has things backwards. Trump has always been at the core a lying, delusional narcissist. The NVP “Positive Thinking” stuff was merely a window dressing adopted by the Trumps to hide behind. It is of no real significance at all. If Trump had never read Peale, he’d be the same person. ---
**Author:** ![pudytat72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@pudytat72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pudytat72)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/30 "2017-10-18T18:17:18Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I think I understand your theory, and I would have been inclined to agree until I read [this article on Politico](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/13/donald-trump-positive-thinking-215704). I think he is incapable of recognizing when he is in over his head. Wow! That article really pinpoints the problem with President Trump. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/31 "2017-10-18T19:17:36Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > A very disappointing article. It has things backwards. Trump has always been at the core a lying, delusional narcissist. The NVP “Positive Thinking” stuff was merely a window dressing adopted by the Trumps to hide behind. It is of no real significance at all. If Trump had never read Peale, he’d be the same person. The article was interesting but I agree that they got cause and effect switched around. Trump was always a narcissist & sociopath, thus he gravitated towards a twisted philosophy that condoned and rewarded his pathology. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/32 "2017-10-18T19:37:07Z")
Septimus, from your OP I was going to suggest that I have a bridge I would like to sell you. But you seem to have sobered up. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/33 "2017-10-18T19:47:39Z")
[He knew he was in over his head eight months ago.](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/donald-trump-challenges-governing-presidency-234879) Problem is, he thinks he knows best about everything and asking for help is beneath him. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/34 "2017-10-18T20:01:35Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Problem is, he thinks he knows best about everything and asking for help is beneath him. Things that a normal human being is able to do: - Acknowledge that he is not the best and smartest in every field and topic. - Seek and accept assistance when he realizes that he cannot do something. - Recognize when he has made a mistake, particularly one that has caused harm to another person, and apologize for it. Trump has proven repeatedly that all of the above is extremely difficult, if not impossible, for him. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/35 "2017-10-20T19:38:36Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Oh, he’s plenty more than vaguely aware; heck, he just tweeted about it: “So much fake news being put in dying magazines and newspapers. Only place worse may be @NBCNews, @CBSNews, @ABC and @CNN. Fiction writers!” I thought Trump was going to [“open up our [federal] libel laws”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=smbLsMbH-gY) so that he could sue the “fake news” organizations for writing “purposely negative and horrible and false articles” and “sue them and win lots of money.” Trump knows that things aren’t going well but like the almost textbook borderline/narcissist personality disorder that his displayed behavior indicates, he firmly believes it is everyone elses’ fault, even that of the supporters who have tried to help him or further his agenda at expense to their own reputations, including Chris Christie, Jeff Sessions, Mitch McConnell, Sean Spicer, Rex Tillerson, et cetera. Like the emotional toddler that he is, his response to being told that his ideas are ill-informed or unworkable is to throw a temper tantrum evidenced in spastic tweets, refusal to acknowledge or assaulting visiting dignitaries and heads of state, and making threatening pronouncements and undermining treaties with adversaries in an apparent effort to invoke reason for war to glorify himself. I look forward to the day that Angela Merkel finally loses her cool and puts him in an armbar at a summit meeting. I would accept Tracey Ullman doing the same in lieu of. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/36 "2017-10-31T13:49:50Z")
[Some British comedians seem to agree with OP](https://youtu.be/ga1cJXaQe-w?t=4m15s): — “Help, I’m trapped inside this body. I’m a 20-year old woman from Wisconsin.” ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/37 "2017-10-31T16:00:30Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > My opinion, hunh? I think **Trump is begging for help.** He creates impasses, bizarre tweets and deadlines; yet somewhere deep in his reptilian brain he senses that he’s in _ **Way Over his Head** _. > > For whatever reason, he has sent Obamacare on a collision course to complete disaster. How could he have done that, when Obamacare was already a complete disaster? Sorry, my friend, but he’s not in over his head. Never has been. Yeah, there’s a part of me that wished he’d cut back on the tweets, but there’s another part that likes hearing him directly without passing through the political filter of the media. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/38 "2017-10-31T16:06:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > How could he have done that, when Obamacare was already a complete disaster? > > Sorry, my friend, but he’s not in over his head. Never has been. Yeah, there’s a part of me that wished he’d cut back on the tweets, but there’s another part that likes hearing him directly without passing through the political filter of the media. I’m still waiting for him to just give us that wonderful health plan he promised back in January. Everyone covered, lower premiums, already drafted and just waiting for Ryan to bring it to the floor of Congress. You don’t think he was, you know, _ **lying** _ about that do you? > [@](#): > > Trump said his plan for replacing most aspects of Obama’s health-care law is all but finished. Although he was coy about its details — “lower numbers, much lower deductibles” — he said he is ready to unveil it alongside Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). > > “It’s very much formulated down to the final strokes. We haven’t put it in quite yet but we’re going to be doing it soon,” Trump said. He noted that he is waiting for his nominee for secretary of health and human services, Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), to be confirmed. That decision rests with the Senate Finance Committee, which hasn’t scheduled a hearing. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/39 "2017-10-31T16:31:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump never begs for help. He never needs help. He just expects that people will give him the service which he is entitled to. And when they forget to do so, he reminds them. I just saw a DJT sponsored facebook ad and at the very bottom it asks… well, demands we DONATE NOW! Donate BIG today. I only saw it because I noticed 2 of the young girls on my friend list had liked it. Considering I have read “fuck trump” on both of their walls I kinda think facebook plays more than zynga games on us advertising subjects. > **[Trump Is Using Targeted Facebook Ads To Reassure Supporters That He Will...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/trump-is-using-targeted-facebook-ads-to-reassure-supporters)** > > The personal Facebook pages of the president and vice president are running dark post ads that promise "A WALL (NOT A FENCE)," while asking for donations. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125/40 "2017-10-31T18:08:00Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > For whatever reason, he has sent Obamacare on a collision course to complete disaster. There is a slight chance that the GOP will end up taking the blame, but it is far more likely that the Right-Wing-Lie machine will go into overdrive and a majority of white men will decide it’s the Democrats fault for not compromising. Democrat Senators can thus be steered such that voting against an ACA restructuring would lead to anger _against Democrats._ Remember: The average American voter is not known for his smarts. [Polling suggests otherwise](http://www.benefitspro.com/2017/04/11/trump-gop-to-blame-if-aca-collapses-poll) pretty strongly. That could change I suppose, but in the absence of the GOP actually managing to pass anything on health care, they are likely to be blamed if the current system collapses. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-begging-for-help/799125.md?page=3)