# Trump is creating his own gov't-funded personal army of loyalist mercenaries **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 31, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208 "2025-12-31T16:41:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/81 "2026-01-06T21:20:31Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Civil Service employees are not- nor ever have been- loyal to any administration, They are loyal to the Constitution, their paycheck and their retirement, not necessarily in that order. > > Now, this increase in ICE is not needed, and i agree it is too much. But they are selected for being racist, and in fact racists would be terminated. Conspiracy-minded paranoids would work as well. [I’ve personally encountered one such civil servant.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes-and-vaxholes/915339/1517) ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/82 "2026-01-06T21:53:30Z")
Curly’s uniform would fit better. [You Nazty Spy! (Film) - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/YouNaztySpy) You can’t see it in this pic, but the medals on his ass were an especially Trumpian touch. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/83 "2026-01-06T22:26:28Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Just needs some more gold. Goring apparently had a Nazi lightsaber. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/84 "2026-01-06T23:46:00Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Goring apparently had a Nazi lightsaber. You can see that in West Point’s military museum. The Allies collected a ton of super-cool artifacts after Germany fell. The museum is worth a visit (as is the whole campus). Unfortunately it doesn’t extend into a light sabre. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/85 "2026-01-06T23:50:35Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > Unfortunately it doesn’t extend into a light sabre. I think in this case, it’s fortunately. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/86 "2026-01-07T00:10:19Z")
> [@](#): > > After receiving **more than 220,000 applications** to join ICE from patriotic Americans, ICE blew past its original hiring target of 10,000 new officers and agents within a year. In fact, we have more than **doubled our officers and agents from 10,000 to 22,000.** On the bold assumption that the US goes to the polls in 2028 and the better angels prevail. The incoming administration disbands ICE. Do these patriotic, empowered agents and officers just go back to their prior roles or do we see them forming vigilante associations to keep the faith and America safe? ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/87 "2026-01-07T00:13:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think in this case, it’s fortunately. You make a good point. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/88 "2026-01-09T23:29:21Z")
The secret masked police have just demonstrated that they are not racist. They are perfectly happy to murder whites as well. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/89 "2026-01-10T14:54:16Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > The secret masked police have just demonstrated that they are not racist. They are perfectly happy to murder whites as well Yeah the unfortunate reality is this murderer is much more likely to face justice because his victim is a white woman. That’s a massive indictment of America. The administration making a big deal of the fact she’s a lesbian is a blatant attempt to “other” her using sexuality as they can’t use race. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/90 "2026-01-10T15:22:23Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > The administration making a big deal of the fact she’s a lesbian is a blatant attempt to “other” her using sexuality as they can’t use race. Oh yes it’s a gay woman who must be vilified because of her orientation yet the Trump administration has many gay men serving openly out and proudly Republican. So the messaging is gay is cool unless you’re a woman. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/91 "2026-01-10T17:51:38Z")
> [@chela](#): > > So the messaging is gay is cool unless… This is not the messaging I am getting. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/92 "2026-01-11T03:15:18Z")
Like I said… > # ICE Is a Virtual Secret Police > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/opinion/immigration-ice-violence-minnesota.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.DlA.yzwS.uo8Twp2TnVeE&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/10/opinion/immigration-ice-violence-minnesota.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DlA.yzwS.uo8Twp2TnVeE&smid=url-share) > … > In the hands of Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, ICE is a virtual secret police. Masked and heavily armed, ICE agents are sent to cities such as Chicago, Los Angeles and Minneapolis to terrorize immigrant communities and brutalize people who challenge their efforts to stop and detain anyone deemed suspicious. To expand its reach, ICE greatly lowered its recruitment standards, effectively enlisting anyone who cares to sign up. To attract new officers, ICE advertises the chance to do violence to people deemed “enemies” of the United States, likening civil immigration enforcement to a war on a dangerous, alien force. > > The result is an agency whose agents’ first recourse appears to be violence or the threat of violence. According to [The Trace](https://www.thetrace.org/2025/12/immigration-ice-shootings-guns-tracker/), a newsroom dedicated to reporting on gun violence, immigration **agents have opened fire in 16 separate incidents since last June** : “At least three people have been shot observing or documenting immigration raids, and five people have been shot while driving away from traffic stops or evading an enforcement action.” > … My bold. This is just the beginning and everyone knows it. MAGAts see it as a feature not a bug. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2026, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208/93 "2026-01-11T03:34:57Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > TV commercials recruiting ICE agents are running, promising a $50,000 signing bonus, $60,000 student loan repayment. Not everyone working for ICE is an agent. 60 open jobs, and only 3 of them are law enforcement/ special agent related fields. Just look at the long list of open positions this recruiting drive is meant to fill: Supervisory Detention and Deportation Officer Registered Nurse Criminal Investigator Deportation Officer Data Analytics Office Lead Behavioral Health Provider Emergency Medical Response Education Program Specialist Local Chief Dentist Portfolio Management Office Program Analyst Behavioral Health Case Manager Clinical Assistant Nurse Manager Health Services Administrator Clinical Nurse Manager Physician Medical Asset Support Team Psychiatric Advanced Practice Provider Registered Nurse Clinical Assistant Nurse Manager Advanced Practice Provider ISOU Flight Registered Nurse Information Technology Specialist Surely, you don’t think all these doctors and nurses are “uneducated”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-creating-his-own-govt-funded-personal-army-of-loyalist-mercenaries/1026208.md?page=4)