# Trump is dying

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2025, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520 "2025-08-27T07:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2362 "2026-04-21T11:28:20Z")

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In all seriousness, no. I don’t think he needs that level of support/restraint. My mother had similar levels of dementia at the end of her life, and she did fine living at home with an aide. She was a nicer person, and also had no access to dangerous weapons.

But it’s long past time to exercise section 4 of the 25th amendment.

> **[Twenty-fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)**
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> The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution addresses issues related to presidential succession and disability.
> It clarifies that the vice president becomes president if the president dies, resigns, or is removed from office by impeachment. It also establishes the procedure for filling a vacancy in the office of the vice president. 
> The amendment provides for the temporary transfer of the president's powers and duties to the vice president, either on the presi...

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2363 "2026-04-21T11:37:42Z")

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Does the guy still have his job this morning?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2364 "2026-04-21T11:38:40Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I always wondered why any US president would have access to nuclear codes. Maybe it’s a “chain of responsibility” thing

The POTUS has sole authority to launch a nuclear weapon.  
Interestingly…interestingly because I don’t know if wiki always said this or added it since Trump has been in office, but it states that if the POTUS orders a nuclear attack, the only way to cancel it is to 25A him out of office so the VP can cancel it.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2365 "2026-04-21T11:41:25Z")

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_WOULD_ this VP cancel it?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2366 "2026-04-21T11:45:27Z")

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No idea, I would hope even Vance is level headed enough not to nuke another country.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2367 "2026-04-21T11:50:41Z")

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As Trump gets way too close to launching nuclear weapons, we’ll have to see if those with the power to remove him from office actually do that or they instead decide to put out Duck & Cover PSAs and start doing air raid drills.  
Is it more important to them to kiss his ass or keep Americans, including themselves, safe? I know that sounds sarcastic, but turning a blind eye to all his scams and wars and problems he’s caused is on a whole different level than starting a nuclear war.

And, with that, a more serious question, if he were to launch a nuke, how likely is it that someone else will drop one on American soil?

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2368 "2026-04-21T11:51:29Z")

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This seems like a good thread to post this opinion piece, since it recommends using health reasons as a very believable face-saving reason for trump to resign from the Presidency.

Yes, Mr. President sir, if you want to preserve your legacy and be remembered as one of the best Presidents in history, you should resign now, citing health reasons, before all this messy war, scandal and inflation stuff really hits the fan-- that way the worst of it all will get blamed on Vance. Yeahhh, that’s the ticket!

I have to post it as a simple link since it’s not generating a preview tile:

[**Resignation is Trump’s last chance at redemption**](https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5837079-trump-legacy-controversies-scandals/)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2369 "2026-04-21T11:53:56Z")

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You go on hoping, my friend.

👍🏽 🫂

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2370 "2026-04-21T11:58:02Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I always wondered why any US president would have access to nuclear codes.

Because the setup originated during the Cold War, when it was assumed that the decision to use them might need to be made in minutes as a suspected nuclear attack came in. And of course that the President would be mentally competent.

I expect the assumption back then would have been that somebody like Trump would never be elected, and that somebody so obvious mentally dysfunctional would have been long ago removed from office.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2371 "2026-04-21T12:07:59Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> > [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> > I always wondered why any US president would have access to nuclear codes.
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> Because the setup originated during the Cold War, when it was assumed that the decision to use them might need to be made in minutes as a suspected nuclear attack came in. And of course that the President would be mentally competent.

Yes, and beyond that, the codes are necessary, but not sufficient to launch the nukes. The codes are there to assure the chain of command that the President did in fact make the order, and no else issued the command without authorization. The chain of command is still supposed to consider in order to determine the details.

The actual scary part is that Trump has already replaced the chain of command with incompetent lickspittles.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2372 "2026-04-21T13:12:41Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I expect the assumption back then would have been that somebody like Trump would never be elected, and that somebody so obvious mentally dysfunctional would have been long ago removed from office.

PRESIDENT MUFFLEY: General Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you \*assured\* me there was \*no\* possibility of such a thing \*ever\* occurring!

GENERAL TURGIDSON: Well, I, uh, don’t think it’s quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up, sir.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2373 "2026-04-21T13:32:12Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I expect the assumption back then would have been that somebody like Trump would never be elected, and that somebody so obvious mentally dysfunctional would have been long ago removed from office.

In addition to the assumption a madman wouldn’t become president, the assumption was both the judicial and legislative branches would serve as a check against the powers of the executive. But as we’ve seen, many of the people serving in both the legislative and judicial branches have abrogated their responsibilities in favor of enabling Trump to rule by fiat. And let’s not forget the American people, many of whom decided to self-destruct despite knowing better.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2374 "2026-04-21T14:03:35Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> And let’s not forget the American people, many of whom decided to self-destruct despite knowing better.

To be fair, many Americans are too ignorant to know better.  
😢

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2375 "2026-04-21T14:14:49Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> To be fair, many Americans are too ignorant to know better.

Everyone who voted for Trump in 2024 knew who he was. Some of them might be ignorant but it’s a willful ignorance.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2376 "2026-04-21T14:24:40Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Coloring books with maps of Middle Eastern countries

Woah! Hold on there. You might as well include some post-graduate level textbooks on Iranian history and foreign policy 😉

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2377 "2026-04-21T14:45:35Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> You might as well include some post-graduate level textbooks on Iranian history and foreign policy 😉

Trump infamously hates reading a lot in reports and demands pictures, so you want to make sure it’s more of a photo book than anything else. Any text should be brief with small words.

> **[Donald Trump 'likes his intelligence briefings filled with pictures', says...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-latest-pictures-intelligence-briefings-new-report-a7763831.html)**
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> The President is not known for being a heavy reader 

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2378 "2026-04-21T14:59:30Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> And, with that, a more serious question, if he were to launch a nuke, how likely is it that someone else will drop one on American soil?

Not that likely, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it gave Putin an opening to drop one on Kyiv. Or perhaps a lesser city as a demonstration.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2379 "2026-04-21T15:06:18Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I expect the assumption back then would have been that somebody like Trump would never be elected, and that somebody so obvious mentally dysfunctional would have been long ago removed from office

Yup this is one of the many ways something that seemed like an effective check or balance on the executive branch was actually totally dependent on the people involved having some shred of decency and desire to put country ahead of party and self interest ☹

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2380 "2026-04-21T15:16:24Z")

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Well, it worked okay for almost 250 years…

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-is-dying/1022520/2381 "2026-04-21T15:20:28Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Not that likely

As a carefully considered response to the US using a nuke on Iran, it’s unlikely.

As a very hurried descision in reaction to detection of a American nuclear missile being launched more so. There are a whole bunch of very hair-triggered cold war era mechanisms to enable nuclear powers to respond to a nuclear “first strike”.

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